Biden endorses Wall and rages against illegal immigration in 2006

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  1. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    You know how to get a fake ID in regards to an illegal citizen?? Do tell
     
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    Actually it is pretty easy. You can apply for a birth certificate and get a drivers license. The application requires a notary, but generally no one checks the credentials of the notary itself.
     
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    ROFL 14 years? Actually that means Bidins position evolved, and Trump is still stuck in the past on failed ideas.
     
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    An illegal citizen can do that? I call BS
     
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    Just because he is illegal, doesn't mean he is stupid.
     
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    How can an illegal citizen in the US apply for a birth certificate? They weren't born here.
     
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    And you cant possibly be calling the forums members stupid either cause you have proof correct? Stats, an example of an illegal using these documents recently and actually gaining citizenship with fudged papers to vote illegally, something that shows we should be worried about this on a mass scale?
     
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    I suggest you go back and read what I wrote.
     
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    "Actually it is pretty easy. You can apply for a birth certificate and get a drivers license. The application requires a notary, but generally no one checks the credentials of the notary itself."

    Proof of this? I mean I can pull up a DMV checklist of documents you have to provide..but that's not what you claim anyone has to adhere to.
     
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    Unbelievable. I would have supported creepy Joe after that speech if I thought he was principled!
     
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    But not in a number of city and local elections.
     
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    I tried Arkansas. I need only proof of a legal residence and a birth certificate. Proof of legal residence can be as little as an electric bill.
     
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    So an illegal citizen is going to show their birth certificate showing they were born in another country and you think that will prove they are a legal resident of the US???
     
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    Why would it have to be from a foreign country? Do you think there are no unscrupulous people here in the US who can arrange for you to get a US birth certificate?
     
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    You have yet to prove this to be the case. Sorry, but your opinion is just that. It's not proof. Please show us the data backing up your claim that illegals are obtaining illegal birth certificates to obtain illegal drivers licenses. What kind of numbers are we talking about?
     
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    What kind of data is needed? It is not that difficult. I can create my own notary seal for about ten dollars. That is all that is needed to get a birth certificate.
    Then we have other states where it is virtually legal.
    https://nypost.com/2019/06/18/law-g...s-drivers-licenses-could-lead-to-voter-fraud/
     
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    If it's so easy to obtain illegal birth certificates there should be plenty of data showing how rampant it is, right?
     
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    FFS!

    Some of you are so naive. I suppose you're in the crowd that thinks there are only 10 million or so illegals here. I suppose you think illegals don't get welfare. I suppose you think they can't get fake documents to get a job or get a stolen SSN.

    15 states, the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico give driver's licenses to illegals.

    When you've already got all the documents you need to work and drive, illegally or not, you have everything you need to register to vote.

    https://www.ncsl.org/research/immigration/states-offering-driver-s-licenses-to-immigrants.aspx

    They ****ing vote! In large numbers.
     
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    Do you really expect the government to keep track of it?
     
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    I would think someone would want to look into this if it's such a problem, no?
     
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    Trump tried. The states did not want to turn over the records.
     
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    Only 15 states didn't. The rest of what was investigated found no widespread voter fraud.
     
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    No widespread? Not none at all, but not widespread? The definition of "widespread" is in the eyes of the beholder.
     
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    Well, it was determined, by Trump's committee, that there was no need for further investigation. So apparently in the eyes of TRUMP'S committee there wasn't anything to be concerned about.
     
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