Chinese Navy Kicks Out US warship From Territorial Waters

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Give one reason why China, and even for that matter Iran, N. Korea and Russia would even be considered a threat to world freedom and democracy - other than its being blasted all over the MSM?

    Now if you had said that China, Iran, Russia and N. Korea aren't willing to bow to our world dominance and therefore have become threat to our world dominance, then I would agree with you. But that's not what you said now is it? You didn't say 'world dominance', you said freedom and democracy - which if you notice, runs contrary to most of our actions in the world.
     
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    The Outlaw Nation of China are well known liars.

    Navy officials confirmed that guided-missile destroyer USS Barry (DDG-52) conducted a freedom of navigation operation in the vicinity of the island chain off Vietnam, not China.

    While the statement of the Lying Outlaw Nation claimed that the PLA forced Barry out of the island chain, the operation proceeded as planned without encountering any unsafe or unprofessional behavior from Lying Outlaw Chinese military aircraft or warships.

    https://news.usni.org/2020/04/28/ch...u-s-warship-from-south-china-sea-island-chain
     
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    COLD WAR II: U.S. rearms to nullify Lying Outlaw China’s missile supremacy.

    The Pentagon intends to arm its Marines with versions of the Tomahawk cruise missile now carried on U.S. warships, according to the White House budget requests for 2021 and Congressional testimony in March of senior U.S. military commanders. It is also accelerating deliveries of its first new long-range anti-ship missiles in decades.​

    Beijing urged Washington to “be cautious in word and deed,” to “stop moving chess pieces around” the region, and to “stop flexing its military muscles around China.”​

    The U.S. moves are aimed at countering China’s overwhelming advantage in land-based cruise and ballistic missiles. The Pentagon also intends to dial back China’s lead in what strategists refer to as the “range war.” The People’s Liberation Army (PLA), China’s military, has built up a huge force of missiles that mostly outrange those of the U.S. and its regional allies, according to senior U.S. commanders and strategic advisers to the Pentagon, who have been warning that China holds a clear advantage in these weapons.​

    And, in a radical shift in tactics, the Marines will join forces with the U.S. Navy in attacking an enemy’s warships. Small and mobile units of U.S. Marines armed with anti-ship missiles will become ship killers.​

    Remember Obama’s “pivot to Asia” that turned out to be a nothingburger with a side of zerofries? These new moves are the real deal.
     
  4. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What I gather from all the passion and name calling, is that China is either helping Iran or they are hurting some investors. I can't imagine it being otherwise.

    How about you fast forward to 1:00, and listen to Pompeo saying how they were being taught to lie. This is our government speaking, so what you're saying is that we should trust what our government says in relation to China, even though our government admits it lies.


     
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    China lied to the world about the pandemic, fooling us while it spread to our nations.

    3,809,016 infected

    263,889 dead, and these are not gentle deaths, these are very violent deaths.

    2,257,491 active cases

    Completed Case death rate is 17% So 384,000 more dead even if infections stop today, but, they are still doubling, every 12 days.

    That is a swelling sea of blood on the hands of the Lying Outlaw Regime in Beijing.
     
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  6. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When did China lie about the pandemic? We saw what was going on and we ignored it as if it couldn't touch us. It's just an excuse so we wouldn't have to pay back China's loans.
     
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    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    I expect he did & read it too !
    What YOU call Proof has been shown to be a Smear verging on Libel. You present a rather
    dumb anti intellectual article that attempts to BRAND anybody who dares to Criticize the Crimes
    committed by The USofA as being inspired by Hate. The foul screed YOU set before us
    is Yellow Journalism of the very WORST KIND, yet easily EXPOSED by any honest scholar
    willing turn over the Dirty Rug of the numerous Lies presented in that Article.


    YOUR Proof is a futile and bald attempt to defile Mr.Chomsky, who dares to Criticize some
    of the Crimes & Atrocities committed by American Foreign Policy, as being Hateful and
    Traitorous. Let it be known that the real Hateful Traitors are like many here on PF. -

    T
    hey are the Obsequious Sycophants who loudly cheer USA! USA! --- Right or Wrong !
    in spite of the numerous Crimes & Atrocities that have been committed by their Corporate
    owned Government Leaders
    . Crimes committed in their name and with their Tax Dollar$.
    ..........................................................................................................................................................................................................
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    They are those who seek to smear the True Patriots, who like Martin Luther King, bravely
    stand & state: -- “I criticize America because I love her and because I want to see her
    ......................................................................................................... to stand as the Moral example of the World.”


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    For sake of the Brevity of my limited time, and to encourage any Honest Intellect to study
    further the stupid lying smear that you present as Poof, I will EXPOSE just two of the Lies
    and offer a couple of Rebuttals to the disgusting canned :icon_shithappens:Poop:icon_shithappens: that you call Proof.


    1.

    Quote from the hollow LIE that YOU call Poof :
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    https://www.city-journal.org/html/america’s-dumbest-intellectual-12361.html

    "Back in 1977, Chomsky dismissed accounts of the Cambodian genocide as “tales of
    Communist atrocities” based on “unreliable” accounts. At most, the executions “numbered
    in the thousands” and were “aggravated by the threat of starvation resulting from American
    distraction and killing.” In fact, some 2 million perished on the killing fields of Cambodia
    because of genocidal war against the urban bourgeoisie and the educated, in which
    wearing a pair of glasses could mean a death sentence."

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    Fact is he did NOT dismiss the accounts of Cambodian Genocide !
    In an excellent Rebuttal EXPOSING this LIE read from QUORA:

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    The Article:
    Did Noam Chomsky Deny the Khmer Rouge Atrocities?
    https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Noam-Chomsky-deny-the-Khmer-Rouge-atrocities
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    And read here:
    Mr. Herman's Rebuttal who was painted with the same brush, at the same time as was
    Mr Chomsky with the stupid transparent Lie & Hate that YOU call Poof :

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    Quote from Herman's Rebuttal :
    https://www.nytimes.com/1988/03/27/books/l-chomsky-and-the-khmer-rouge-407588.html

    "His further assertion that Noam Chomsky attributed the deaths of the Pol Pot era to
    ''nothing but'' a war-induced famine is an outright lie. Mr. Chomsky (and the present writer,
    who was co-author with Mr. Chomsky of his published works on Cambodia) went to great
    pains to stress that there was no doubt that the Khmer Rouge was committing serious
    crimes, although we took no position on their scale (which was very uncertain at the time).
    We focused mainly and openly on the uses to which the West was putting the Khmer Rouge
    terror, the removal of history and context, the serious distortions of evidence and the selectivity
    of attention. These were perfectly legitimate subjects in themselves, justified even more by
    the fact that the West wasn't even proposing doing anything useful for the victims, and by
    the sequel in which the ousted Pol Pot was quietly rehabilitated as a Western ''freedom
    fighter.'' But in the West, to focus on the distortions and hypocrisies of a propaganda campaign
    is to become an ''apologist'' for the villains of that campaign.

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    The rest of YOUR "Dumbest Intellectual" article can be dealt with in LIKE MANNER
    Easily flicked off the street of Civil Public Discourse like so much :icon_shithappens:DOG Z#!+:icon_shithappens:.
    Disposed of with just a little poke & flip of the the LONG STICK of Intellectual Honesty.

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  8. Eadora

    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    eg
    2.

    From the Poof of Poop YOU call Proof :
    https://www.city-journal.org/html/america’s-dumbest-intellectual-12361.html

    It is insinuated that Chomsky dishonestly presents the Horrible Atrocities committed in the
    Philippines by the American take over there after the Spanish American War.


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    LOOK HERE TO THIS PROOF !


    As if Re-Invading the Philippines during WWII and setting up a Puppet Republic after the
    War to continue their Exploitation can Justify THIS ! - America blessing of the Natives

    WARNING GRAPHIC IMAGE OF US ATROCITY
    https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/3580/ZFKZqy.jpg


    As to the LIE regarding the overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom

    The overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom began on January 17, 1893, with a coup d'état against
    Queen Liliʻuokalani on the island of Oahu by subjects of the Hawaiian Kingdom, United States
    citizens, and foreign residents residing in Honolulu. A majority of the insurgents
    were foreigners
    . Wikipedia
    Nice to have foreign residents voting in a referendum determining the existence of your Nation
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    I could go ON & ON but for my own time constraints and flip over each RUG covered Lie,
    misrepresentation and stain of DIRT presented in YOUR Proopf

    But be Intellectually Honest, listen to Chomsky's "Manufacturing Consent" and Deal With
    the Facts presented. Have done with YOUR Willful IGNORANCE and do YOUR own homework.

    I encourage YOU to stop chomping down on the Excrement being fed to YOU by Corporate &
    G
    overnment, Exceptionalist Propaganda Mills
    that lead you like a Puppet to point YOUR
    Moral Compass
    in the wrong direction thus sully YOU with the Blood of Innocents

    Or stay as YOU presently seem to be - a dishonest Broker, lacking all Credibility and good
    only as a Foil that can be used to EXPOSE LIES
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    Noam Chomsky Maintains The Rage
    https://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/noam-chomsky-maintains-rage

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    all this shows is your are an American hating boot licker of the lowest order.

    When Chomsky lists an equal number of good achievements of U.S. foreign policy along with the supposed crimes, then I will take him seriously.

    I would never take someone of your "ilk" seriously.
     
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    BasicHumanUnit2 Well-Known Member

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    So the answer is NO.

    China has a army of Internet Trolls who will say anything to make America look bad. They will also deny they are Chinese agents.
    If you're not on the Chinese Communist party payroll, you should be.
     
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    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    Warning. At PoliticalForum.com you are not allowed to accuse another poster of being a shill for China, Russia, or Iran.

    No matter how obvious it is.

    But if you want to deny the holocaust the moderating staff will defend you to the dying day.
     
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    Considering the underhanded theft that China does 24/7, I would fully support America conquering China right now.
    Only then would the Chinese people, most of whom do not want the Communist party, finally be free.
     
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    I didn't "accuse" you personally of anything.
    Did you feel it applied to you personally?

    Interesting. You couldn't name ONE thing you liked about America.

    FACT: China does have an army of Internet Trolls.
    How Chinese internet trolls go after Beijing's critics overseas
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/18/tech/china-uyghurs-internet-trolls-facebook-intl/index.html

    MY Opinion is that you would indeed serve China well as you obviously loath the USA and defend China with every post. Your anti-American rhetoric only harms the USA in the eyes of the world.

    And your reference to the Holocaust makes absolutely no sense
     
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    No. Just a friendly heads up. All anyone here does regarding me is bitch about my avatar.
     
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    BasicHumanUnit2 Well-Known Member

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    For some reason I thought Jeanette said that.
    My bad.

    I was pointing out how much she "sounded" like them.
     
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    I have to wonder if YOU read as well as own all these "thousands upon thousands" of books ?
    B
    ecause if YOU did, YOU would know that personal Braggadocio is a poor Debating Technique

    As does
    Martin Luther King & Naom Chomsky - But that does NOT make them blind to its Faults
    ..If YOU cannot admit to, or see YOUR Nations Faults, even when those Faults are on a level
    ....................................... Murderous Insanity, then how can YOU even claim to know what LOVE is ?

    Well friend good "Giftedone" :) - Ad Hom and Insult seems to just be another couple
    of "Dayton3's" Debating Techniques - He rolls them out them when Braggadocio just .................................................................................................................................................................. doesn't seem to cut it :)

    Regarding the Rebuttal I posted of his "Dumb Intellectual" Article
    In which I carefully dissected the THING of a few of the Lies presented, and gave reference:
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    & I get this rather imposing display of Intellectual Gymnastics
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    Thank God for that :)

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    Your last claim is slander.

    Lying China’s Outlaw government engaged in an “assault on international transparency” to the “endangerment of other countries,” concludes a report by the Five Eyes intelligence consortium of the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the United States.

    Lying Beijing’s deliberate suppression of evidence, including: “disappearing” doctors and scientists who tried to sound the alarm; destroying proof at genomic-studies labs; and “bleaching of wildlife market stalls.” The Lying regime denied human-to-human transmission” when it knew the disease was spreading between people.

    Lying China’s still stonewalling: It’s denying repeated international requests for a live virus sample from the first coronavirus cases. That would help researchers working on a vaccine — and maybe shed light on where and how the virus originated. Nor will it let in foreign experts to examine those origins.

    An investigation by Canada’s Global News found that Outlaw Lying China secretly told embassies around the world to buy all personal protective equipment possible — in mid-January, when it knew the virus would likely go global. They concealed human-to-human transfer until Jan 20.

    The Lying Outlaw regime used diplomats, state-owned companies and Chinese émigrés to purchase N95 masks and other gear to ship “back batches of scarce supplies for the motherland.” About 100 tons shipped out of Canada alone — leaving that country with limited supplies when the pandemic hit.

    Outlaw Lying China “intentionally concealed the severity” of its coronavirus crisis in January so it could stock up on medical supplies from abroad — which it also lied about, covering up trade data.

    https://nypost.com/2020/05/06/finally-the-world-is-catching-on-to-chinas-coronavirus-lies/

    I find it odd that you were wholly ignorant of all this until this moment.
     
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    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    And YOUR Debating Technique [​IMG]
     
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    Your America hating dribble is more offensive.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Self Deception is the root cause of the problem.
     
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    China ????

    China is guilty of many human right violations.

    * Don’t you remember Tiananmen square?
    * These are the people who kill baby girls.
    * They still discriminate against the LGBTI community.
    * They have locked up 1 million Muslims because of their religion
    * Forced organ harvesting - They kill people for their organs.

    If China was ever stupid enough to attack America, they would get crushed.
     
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    Isn't that enough.
     
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    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    Dayton YOU do NOT understand - I do NOT find
    YOUR Debating Technique in the least bit Offensive
    .................................................................................... I find it Funny :)
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    One this is certain.

    You won't find people in China berating China the way they feel so free to do in the USA.
    China is not a free nation. Human rights are not important.

    The exact same talk that some openly use here to talk about how horrible the USA is would find themselves in prison or at room temperature in a shallow dirt pit if they said those same things in
    China against the Communist party.

    It is the pinnacle of disgrace and selfishness to call out the nation that allows you to call it out, and ignorantly praise one of the world's leading human rights violators.
    Chinese people who fled Communist China to become American would have no respect for such people.
     
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    I also find China's "Social Credit System" - Repulsive

    A System we may see coming to The United States if Ca$h
    is ever abolished and we move to a Digital Fed Coin System

    Social Credit: China's Digital Dystopia In The Making


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