The Twin Pillars that Trump's presidency relies on

Of course ethnic diversity hurts America. Ethnic diversity hurts all nations. Consider the Hutu and the Tutsis, the Serbs and the Croats, the Burmese and the Rohingi. I could multiply the examples indefinitely. So could you.

"Diversity is our Strength" is an idiotic slogan.

 

Ethnic diversity is such a new thing in the US. Hope we can survive it...

 

Such a lengthy way of saying you want a person that is the anthesis of moral and good character to push your religious views on the unwilling.

For you to believe your narrative is in the majority when trump received 63 million votes and 75 million voted against him is at odds with reality.

 

Rewrite the OP and maybe those questions can be answered.

 

Most government functions are done better by government than private business, and ethnic diversity crushed monolithic Germany, so, no, it does not hurt America.

 

We have too many people lacking an understanding of the value of basic character qualities. I have to think that is either ignorance of choice or personal convenience, because critical thinking and common sense both speak to the importance of these things. Let me give you a simple view held by many astute businessmen:

"There are three kinds of people.
Those whom you can shake hands with, and have a deal more sound than any contract can create.
Those whom, if you have a sound contract and stay on top of the situation, you can do business with successfully.
Those whom have already figured out how they are going to cheat you while they're signing the contract."

The difference is character. IF you are good enough at reading people, you can simply see them coming, and refuse to associate or do business with any kind but the first.

These are people whose self-respect requires their honesty. They cannot cheat you without cheating themselves; damaging their own self-respect, which such people value beyond profit or anything else.

The second kind make it risky- the third makes it very dangerous. Where any kind of risk is involved, I chose to do business with and associate only with the first. ONLY by doing that can I keep my own life orderly and maintain my own self respect.

Imagine a society were everyone kept their word, and was honest with you. Every time, about everything.
If they didn't want to do something- they told you upfront, regardless of what you wanted to hear.
If they told you they would do something- they consider it an obligation to themselves as well as to you, because their word actually is to them, the bond of their character. They don't violate it for convenience. Think you could live that way? Or are you one that says "If everyone else does it first, then I will too". Most think that way.

You may think their are no such people in the world- but there are a great many. However, if you are not one of them, you won't get a chance to know them- because having that kind of knowledge of yourself and your values allows you to read people in advance, and one simply avoids becoming involved with those lacking it, or they just handle things with great caution- though you may never know it or know why.

These people hold themselves accountable; nobody else has to. That is genuine character. Obviously, you either have no idea it exists, or think only fools keep their word and act honorably.
I understand this because I've been one of them for more than half my life- and like most, that wasn't always so. The value has to be learned. Some do- most never will.
Half-way doesn't count for those that have this value- that's why you can count on a person with this level of character. Genuine character- not part time, not as convenient, not a facsimile- but the real thing.

To be welcome in that circle, you have to share the values; live by them for yourself. Otherwise, you think they don't exist, tell yourself everybody (but you of course) has some kind of con, and that the phrase genuine character is "a meaningless subjective term".
You're just not allowed in the circle. Your loss.

 

Hilariously wrong on all counts

 

Yes, you are. Government is to serve, and business is to make profits.

 

Facts are subjective, look what the MSM does with "facts".

 

No, facts are objective.

It's only the right wing media that deal in 'subjective' alt facts.

 

I’d wager it is entirely point two. As that is the only consistency I’ve found in the Trump devotee. At the time of the vote I would say there were a lot of reasons someone would have swung over to Trump, but for a second term it is entirely predicated on a cultural identity and anti-left prejudice.

 

Anyone want to actually discuss the merits and consequences of diversification? I’m pretty sure you don’t.

 

No. Not really.

 

I think so, pretty much, on both of them. I would add a third though, maybe a forth. I think that there is a rather strong prejudice on the right against any and every thing and person that is liberal. Listen to them describe liberals as lazy people living in their parents’ basements. It isn’t all that different than the way they speak of minority populations.

You know the line. Good hard working, Jesus loving Americans and everyone else is coming to get what they got.

But then conformist is a synonym of conservative, isn’t it. Falls in line with the homogeneous society many conservatives seem to envision. Central to that homogeneity is not only visual conformity but also ideological conformity. Liberals fall outside of that conformity.

The forth would be, as much as conservatives have been taught to mistrust the government, they have also been taught to mistrust the media. Trump plays into this on a rather regular basis.

 

I think that is the primary one. Essentially conservatives have been losing the culture war over the past few decades and Trump is their way of fighting back. He won the primary because they felt the Republicans had been letting them down. Now he is their champion against the encroachment of the left and all of its “scary” diversity.

 

Yeah I didn’t think so.

 

I think his point is no one really needs an explanation as to why you don’t like people who aren’t the same as you.

 

I’m fully aware of what he thinks his point is. The reality is, however, that he doesn’t want to do so because he knows he has an indefensible position for anyone who uses logic as opposed to emotional reasoning.

 

No. He seriously doesn’t care why you don’t like people who are different from you. It’s as simple as that.

 

Here I’ll prove it real quick. If one accepts the civil war was fought to free slaves (which it wasn’t but nevertheless) it resulted in the lives of 700,000 men and the brutal oppression of countless numbers of women, children and elderly.

That’s a hefty price to pay for someone else’s freedom. But fine we did it. So what return was received for our sacrifice?

Blacks represent less than 13% of the total population and yet they commit 52% of our total murder, 33% of our total rape and they’re overrepresented in literally EVERY category of violent crime that we keep track of. Resulting in MILLIONS of deaths, rapes and violent crime over the years.

That’s what I see we have received but maybe I’m missing something. Can you name the five most important contributions to society that blacks have contributed since the civil war?

I’ll even help you out with the first. Open heart surgery was first performed by a black man, with a team of white guys but regardless I’ll give them that one. Let’s hear the next four and then you tell me if our sacrifice was worth it.

Don’t worry. I’ll wait.

 

Then he shouldn’t have asked the question in the first place.

 

You just made my point as to what we already knew about you. You walked right into that one hahaha. But thanks for confirming.

 

Lol exactly what did I say that was not true? Don’t hate on me because the truth doesn’t confirm your politically correct dogma.

 

Other.

Your diagnosis of what you believe drives Trump supporters is incorrect, so you will get a lot of "other".

Small government does not mean open a lot of "government-like" private businesses.

Diversity is neither necessarily bad nor good. We need highly-skilled migrants to fill high-end jobs which Americans are too lazy and/or too stupid to pursue these days, and we need unskilled temporary workers in agriculture and other manual-labor industries. We do not need millions of illiterate and unskilled immigrants traipsing across the border with their families seeing government aid for life. Support for Trump's immigration policies has nothing to do with an attitude about diversity or racism; it is economic.

 

No one cares what you think about diversification, my friend.