Why are Republicans so opposed to vote by mail?

Social Security checks, unemployment insurance checks, Covid checks, all get mailed.

and nobody has a problem with that.

 

so we should't allow voting by mail, so as to preserve tradition???

LOL!!!

how about this: let anyone who wants to vote in person, do so. And everyone who wants to vote by mail, can do so.

that way, everyone happy!!

 

Wrong. In many states an absentee ballot is only provided to those who are sick, disabled, out of the country, or at least out of state for "legitimate" reasons. In those states, if you apply for an absentee ballot from home, the request will be denied.
Here's a link for an example. Click on "Absentee Ballot Application" and read "I am applying for an absentee ballot because (check at least one box):"

https://www.sos.alabama.gov/alabama-votes/voter/absentee-voting

 

I wonder if we should also switch back over to only allowing white landowning males the ability to vote.
You know, to preserve tradition...

Conservatives only seem to want to “conserve” the really bad things while they ignore conservation or every thing else.

 

yes, why is it that Conservatives often only want to "conserve" really bad things?

 

"Trump’s new obsession with voting by mail provides an excellent case study in his failing ability to remake reality, when he can’t even persuade his own party to share his beliefs.

In the face of a pandemic, what was already limited opposition to letting voters mail in their ballots has withered. Eleven of the 16 states that limit who can vote absentee have eased their election rules this spring to let anyone cast an absentee ballot in upcoming primary elections — and in some cases, in November as well. Another state, Texas, is fighting a court order to do so.
Four of those 11 states are mailing ballot applications to registered voters, just as Michigan and Nevada are doing. And that does not count 34 other states and the District of Columbia that already allow anyone to cast an absentee ballot, including five states in which voting by mail is the preferred method by law.
Those four other states mailing absentee ballot applications to all voters are Georgia, Iowa, Nebraska and West Virginia — all states controlled by Republicans that Trump won in 2016."

Trump votes by mail, so why does he want to force old voters to do what he won't himself do??

Oh, of course, he is trying to cheat.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...his-own-party-that-mail-voting-is-fraudulent/

 

Traditionally we vote in person. We have for over 200 years. So yes, it's tradition. This is not controversial.

 

You are unnecessarily opening the door to the abuses and errors I already cited.

 

You get in the car, drive to the nearest polling place, park the car, walk in to the polling place, present a valid ID, walk up to the machine, and vote. If you find that difficult, you can follow me in November. I'll show you how.

No charge.

 

Unless you are elderly, disabled, out of state, in the military, in government, live in Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Utah or Washington...

You are picking a time frame you like while ignoring the reality of the specific example you are trying to portray and leaving out all the nuance or bad bits — an imaginary time if you will — but that about sums up maga.

It is only controversial because one party cannot win on popular opinion.

 

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Tired of reminding you that there should be humanitarian exceptions to the general rule.

 

Ah, the clumsy, lazy race card. When ya got nothin' else, ya got no choice.

 

Being old or in the military or a resident of several states is a “humanitarian exceptions”?
Strange.

 

That was literally the requirements of traditional early voting. I am not surprised you didn’t know this while you rant about tradition being what we should adhere to.

 

It's a class question, Ronnie. The capitalist class including their cadre of right wingers hate what is best for the working class, and the working class hates what is best for the capitalist class. The conflicts involved make it inescapable. You can't support low-cost, affordable healthcare for all if you want providers to be able to maximize their profits, for example. You can't have exclusion of pre-existing conditions if you want full coverage.

So what conservatives as a group want to conserve will always be what is in their class interest, like maximum profits and no organized worker representation. To the working class, those are "really bad things".

 

more than 50% of the States say you don't need a good reason to vote by mail, other than the desire to.

 

A little while ago it was "all 50 states," LOL. It was you who said that, I think.

But I don't know what your point is. There are a lot of stupid laws on the books. I abide by them anyway. The only reason people support mail in for all is they are either lazy or afraid of being called racist. Two pretty stupid reasons to break with a practice that works fine for the overwhelming majority, and the break with which I already showed to be fraught with problems. You don't wanna hear opposing views? Don't ask. Easy.

 

You know what, you and I are done until you withdraw that race card you played above and apologize with detectable sincerity. It was not appreciated. Then I'll think about reading your future posts.

In anticipation of your doubling down on "da racism", I bid you ... adios.

 

Ah yes, let me guess... history is “TDS” but I accept the retreat on “tradition”


Sayonara

 

Please explain how extending the period of voting helps secure the election? Explain how mail in voting

 

Extending the period of voting and mail in voting is to increase voter turnout and involvement.
Security would be an additional layer

It doesn’t matter how much security there is if it takes away peoples right to vote or disenfranchises them, especially when it is targeted.

 

The logistics of that exercise in a country with over 300 million, are astronomically difficult. And there is FAR too much room for error, even assuming it could be done.

That's two 'honest' reasons. The third is that regulations already apply to everyone equally, so you'd be interfering with that equality if you attempted alter it to suit SOME.

 

You can already do that via doctor's recommendation. You've always been able to do that.

 

If you think that will take 25 years, you're far more optimistic than myself. I would have said 25 minutes - if universal mail voting is passed.

This is what these folk who want everything to be as easy as possible for the laziest in the village, are shooting for. Constant smoothing of the path. It's like the addict who keeps needing more of his poison to get the same high. Next they'll be wanting to do something about gravity because it makes fat people feel heavy.

 

How does anything associated with voluntary voting impinge upon some peoples' right to vote, when voting regulations are universal?

You're going to wade into dangerous waters if you try that 'targeted' thing. Feeling brave?