A 25-year-old black man was shot dead in Georgia while jogging, prompting online protests labeling t

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  1. MissingMayor

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    It would be a double win. It would be the right thing to do and Trump would lose support over it.
     
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    It's just a political stunt.

    In fact it's ridiculous.
     
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    Just reporting the news. Not sorry though.
     
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    Yeah, every force has these kind of problems, the murder is just a domestic and like everything else nothing to do with this. McWilliams was just seeing out his time before retirement, DUDE! They had cause to search him and to taser him, the fact that they didn't search the car without reasonable grounds disproves your point.
     
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    And those people we were colonizing had done exactly the same thing to their enemies. But we brought freedom, democracy and civilization and if you think otherwise you're dreaming. I have a 2;1 degree in Modern History, what do you have?

    The US fought communist tyranny and religious fundamentalism, once that threat goes they're happy to let people make their own mistakes.
     
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    Stalking and harassment is not that, that's for estranged couples. They blocked his way but never confined him which would be necessary for false imprisonment.
     
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    Apologies, meant McMichael. Travis was backing up his dad who did.
     
  9. Reasonablerob

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    Eh?
     
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    Really, where?
     
  11. Reasonablerob

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    People entering a structure as a trespasser with intent to steal. He won't drop the case because he's bowing to the mob and twisting the law to do so. Does the 3rd DA somehow know the law better than the first 2?
     
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    No you don't, you see him pointing it downwards, look again.
     
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    They admitted their actions but rightly state there was no crime.
     
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    1. Already shown they did
    2. They did have authority in the cirumstance
    3. Yes, they are clear and exonerate them
    4. They are in jail to appease the mob, not because they did anything wrong.
     
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    They're in jail to bow to the mob, being in jail doesn't mean you're guilty, look at McMartin.
     
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    You don't get it, you need to prove intent for a conviction, to stop and search (or detain someone else for the police to do the same) you only have to have RGTS otherwise without a mindreading device you'd never stop anyone. They had knowledge of a crime, he fitted the description of the suspect and was fleeing the scene.
     
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    The main mistake was not having a Confederate Flag flying high enough so all thugs would know that in this territory your arse can get shot dead real quick especially if you try to grab the gun of a citizen neighborhood watch patrol exercising citizens arrest
     
  18. Reasonablerob

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    1. Already show that they do.
    2. The law says you can.
    3. They are in jail to appease the mob. If the statutes are clear why did the 3rd DA look at the same evidence and come to a completely separate conclusion?
     
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    Did you know the reason they released the footage was to dispel rumours the McMichaels were flying the Confederate flag from their vehicle?
     
  20. Reasonablerob

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    Wow, snappy comeback! Care to explain what?
     
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    No I'm serious, apologise.
     
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    But would that mean if they are convicted Trump could pardon them on his way out of the Whitehouse?
     
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    I don’t care if they were dressed up like confederates and flying the flag from the truck any more than from
    A flag pole in their yard.
    The point is that a known repeat belligerent thug had been harassing the neighborhood repeatedly , but didn’t get shot dead until he decided to be a belligerent thug once again , AND grab hold of a gun held by a citizen legally
    trying to conduct citizens arrest.
     
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    DA; "Look, just plead guilty, we charged you with murder so you'd plead down and admit manslaughter. We arrested your neighbour and dad even though they never fired a shot and denied them bail even though we had no grounds to in order to put more pressure on you to cop a plea. You go to prison for a few years and the mob don't riot"

    Travis McMichaels; "Here's me thinking that the justice system was about doing what was right for society rather than what was convenient?"

    DA; "Boy are you naïve!"

    TM; "How can you do this? The other 2 DA's looked at the same evidence and decided there was no case to answer?"

    DA; "Yeah but the family are all over the press and we're under intense political pressure!"

    TM; "But how does that alter the facts of the case?"

    DA; "It doesn't but we have to interpret them differently to please the misinformed and prejudiced"

    TM; "So I'm to be the sacrificial lamb?"

    DA; "Yep. If you hadn't been white and him black things would have been different but the law applies differently to people based on race"

    TM; "Where does it say that?"

    DA; "On Twitter of course!"

    TM; "So much for the rule of law and due process huh?"

    DA; "Oh where have you been? Political correctness trumps all that!"
     
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    The point is... that he wasn't a repeat belligerent thug harassing the neighborhood.
    The point is... McMichaels was an incredible lousy cop. He lost the authority to arrest, wasn't allowed to wear his gun, drive the car of the police district, to even wasn't allowed to wear a badge. We got a person just looking like him participating in a nazi rally. We got him not being aware of a CCTV vid of that day, but racially profiling the only black man he sees running who entered that construction site that was frequently visited by all kinds of people.... to start lynch mob with at least his own son and neighbor, chasing him around for 4 minutes, with their guns out... cutting him off while closing him in from behind, blocking him, and going full on a false imprisonment. That is illegal, and even a black man is allowed to defend himself against this.... It is so, since them lot LOST THE WAR.
     

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