A 25-year-old black man was shot dead in Georgia while jogging, prompting online protests labeling t

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    In the time of slave patrols it probably wasn't considered murder
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    maybe I should say what next time, that I was talking about what I was talking about it's not my problem if you can't follow the conversation it didn't want to play gacha games when you have nothing to support your claim.

    And I did support Mike claims that the media fabricates this sort of thing. They said but Sandra bland suicide was racist killing and they were lying. They said trayvon Martin was a racist killing and they were lying, they said tamir rice was it racist killing and they were lying. They said Michael Brown was a racist killing and they were lying.

    They lie about this constantly. The only reason you believe it is because you want it to be true.

    none of this is the slightest bit of evidence of it's being racially motivated.

    Arbury's activities were suspicious. If they live there it is their neighborhood.
    the DA had nothing to do with it that was after the fact. And it doesn't speak to racism.

    Sorry you're assuming.
     
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    You claiming that people are lying is not the same thing as proving or even backing up your claim. Sandra Bland and Tamir Rice were abominations of justice. Zimmerman was found not guilty because there wasn't enough evidence in a fair court of law. With Michael Brown we likewise rely on the testimony of the officer (who is alive) and 3rd parties. Even so, the officer's conduct was unprofessional and reckless and I am still very troubled that the initial shots were fired as Michael Brown was running away.

    The DA sitting on the case was the ENTIRE story when it broke. At the time all we had was the police reports and the DA's jaded letters. This entire thread started well before Gregory McMichael decided to leak the video.

    Don't assume anything about posters like myself who have been following by early on. Remember, you want to shut your eyes until a court case.
     
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    Yes it is. Nobody from a position of knowledge on the case has said it was racially motivated. Just the news. They are habitual liars about this.
    Sandra bland committed suicide, the only person guilty of her death is herself. So not an abomination of justice.

    Tamer rice was seen pointing a gun at people. While his death was tragic, if he had shot someone with the pellet gun it could have killed them.

    Zimmerman was being attacked the evidence points to Martin being on top of zimmerman while Zimmerman was on his back. It was pretty clear. The trial was a show trial nothing more.

    I don't think it's unprofessional just shoot someone who's trying to take your gun away probably to shoot you with it so I disagree with your assessment.

    it doesn't indicate the shooting was racially motivated it happened after the fact didn't have anything to do with it.
    Can you pair it back news media talking points that are notoriously untruthful I feel comfortable in assuming.

    All of your opinion about suicides and justified shootings don't really add up to anything.
     
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    Then it should be no problem for you to point to an article where "the news" said it was racially motivated. Not some quote by someone making that claim, but where "the news" says it. Hint: they didn't.

    As I have said, Sandra Bland was pulled over for not coming to a complete stop and wound up in jail for several days. That is the part where the police royally screwed up.
    Tamir Rice was a complete F up by the cops, especially the driver. They made no attempt to contact Tamir before rushing up with the to within feet of him. That placed the cop who jumped out in a horrible position with no time to really see what was happening before he shot Tamir. If Tamir was an adult with a real gun who intended to use it that first cop would have been dead on the spot because of the driver's actions. Even if it was an adult who did not intend to use a gun that person may very well have killed the officers simply out of reaction to the situation.

    The fight over the gun was based entirely on Zimmerman's testimony. And there was simply nothing to refute it. Trayvon appeared to be the aggressor in the fight. I have zero problem with a not guilty decision, although Zimmerman pursued Trayvon because he looked suspicious and really had no reason to shadow him like he did. But Zimmerman's pursuit was not assault unlike the McMichaels'.

    That the DA was sitting on the case had nothing to do with what led to the shooting. It clearly seems to be related to Greg McMichael being former LE and the letters indicated a clear bias against Arbery, even bringing up an allegation of mental illness and referring to an aggressive nature that Arbery supposedly had.
    Yet you claim the media is lying yet can't show a lie. And try to keep it specific to this case as your claim is specific to this case.
     
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    I don't care to you can deny it if you wish.
    She was charged with assaulting a police officer. If she didn't want to be put in jail she shouldn't have done that.

    He was pointing a pellet gun at people. He shouldn't have been doing that.

    Fair enough. Why was the McMichaels incident racially motivated?

    Fair enough, show that the bias was based on race.
    I'm simply skeptical of the conclusion they j jumped to with no evidence. Evidence you can't present.
     
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    So you can't defend your claim.
    And you didn't watch the Bland video.
    And the penalty for holding a bb gun is death.
    And you are skeptic of stuff.

    What s waste of my attention.
     
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    No. Police didn't know it was a bb gun until after the fact.

    Bland still killed herself. She didn't have to. She is solely responsible for her death. Nobody else. Video or no video.

    Just of claims you can't prove.

    So where is the proof the McMichaels were racially motivated.

    You haven't presented it because you can't, because it doesn't exist.
    Then run away. You couldn't prove your claim.
     
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    Disturbing, read the whole thing at the link:
     
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    Apparently you didn't get the memo that 1st world white people kept other countries impoverished for centuries by brutal oppression for the sake to drain their resources.
     
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    You know the police district this happened is a total joke, right? The ex-cop who did it, lost his authorization to arrest people. He at one point wasn't allowed to have a gun. At one point, he wasn't allowed to drive a car of the police district.... and if you think this can't get any worse: at the end of his "career" he was made to work without a badge! There is vid out where a cop does an illegal search on Abrey, an other cop tries to taser him when they know he's unarmed. The taser happy cop... he's currently indicted on a totally unrelated matter.
     
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    They shouldn't but they quite obviously do.
     
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    No we don't, we have footage of 2 men wrestling over a shotgun and all 3 deny ever having done anything wrong,
     
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    Yes, running down the road from the scene of the previous burglaries. Yes it is and it proves they have no case to answer, the law is being horrifically twisted to appease the mob.
     
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    They had every authority, they had RGTS giving them authority to detain him for a felony which they knew had taken place, the previous burglaries. They had no evidence of a crime committed by Arbery but it's not an issue to convict him, only to detain him in order to stop and search and question.
     
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    It sure does, it shows the system is racially biased against white people and used to persecute ex-police officers to appease politically correct prejudices.
     
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    He didn't, you can clearly see him pointing it safely downwards.
     
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    Yes they did, they had RGTS him off burglary. I can see Arbery's point of view but surely you can see McMichaels? He wasn't murdered he was shot after attempting to wrestle the gun from Travis. The McMichaels are in jail to appease the black mob
     
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    Or the European peoples brought the concepts of freedom, democracy and civilization to the barbarians? Either way, it's irrelevant to this case.
     
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    No, who said that? It has complaints but every force does. The ex cop failed to requalify for his firearms and driving and then worked as a civilian aide to see out his service. No cop does an illegal search of Arbery, it was totally justified and unless they had x-ray vision didn't know he was unarmed. And as you say the other matter is totally unrelated.
     
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    In a small town police department that would be inevitable. The new DA bowed to the mob, no additional evidence came to light.
     
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    I don't have to, don't you understand that? I only have to have RGTS. Same goes for those other folks
     
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    No one was murdered, their detention was legal
     
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    Prejudicial stereotype assume racial discrimination.
     
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    We'll see, the search of their houses can only be to see if there is any racial motivation evidence but so far zip.
     
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