Economic Disruption Will Kill and Endanger Millions of Third World People

Disruptions to supply chains caused by the economic turmoil of the LOCKDOWNS will kill and mortally endanger millions of people in the third world.

For the millions of impoverished people living on the margins of starvation, even small variations in food supplies and availability can cause large amounts of death and misery because many people in the third world are one missed meal away from certain death.

This is just basic economics.

Yet we're not allowed to talk about this or mention this because, well, it blows a gigantic hole in the liberal narrative about saving lives.

In reality, the liberal lockdowns will cause millions to die, most of them black and brown children.

Which will make liberals responsible for perhaps the worse mass killing of black and brown children in recorded history.

 

It's like I have a splinter in my thumb so I will cut off my thumb.

 

It's not surprising. Liberal Democrats like Madeleine Albright were perfectly willing to kill 500,000 Iraqi children. Now Democrats will sacrifice a few million more children on the altar of liberalism.

 

Millions of first and second world people will also die as. 35,000 for every one point uptick in unemployment in the US alone - and that is in normal times - expect the numbers to be much higher in times of economic disaster.

 

You are perfectly welcome to talk about this if you have something to contribute. Using it to whine about "liberals" is not the same as contributing.

Not only third world nations, but US will have to find a balance between the consequences of taking the steps necessary to mitigate the pandemic, and the economic and human consequences of the pandemic itself.

There is good news: complete "lockdowns" can be averted (maybe) if there is proper social distancing, people wear masks, and other expert guidelines are followed. That may be easier to do in underdeveloped nations than in ours. Because they generally don't have a portion of their population that belong to a cult that has decided that wearing masks is against some weird political dogma.

Many things can be attempted by underdeveloped nations. Cycles of opening and closing, ranging from 2 days to 2 weeks have been proposed. And some underdeveloped nations will be adopting them.

But I very much doubt this was the topic you want to discuss. You just wanted to whine about lockdowns, right?

Well... if you don't like lockdowns, then let's hear you promote the only alternative we know of: Masks!

 

Liberal lockdowns mean that ships can't move
Liberal lockdowns mean that trucks can't move
Liberal lockdowns mean that farms can't produce
Liberal lockdowns mean that processing plants can't process

When these things can't happen the supply chain is disrupted.

When these things can't happen people will die.

 

Liberals always try to characterize their opponents as whiners. Because liberals never want accept any responsibility for the massive harm they do to society. Accusing their opponents of whining is just how liberals maintain the illusion that they're good guys.

Anyway, Sweden proves you wrong.

No lockdowns. No mask mandates. And no disaster befell them. Their hospitals were not overwhelmed. And they experienced nowhere near the level of death that was predicted by foolhardy modelers and liberals.

And if masks are so effective, then why don't any of the Nordic countries (Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finalnd) mandate them? I guess Nordic cultures just hates science or something? Why did your demigod, Fauci, say there was no reason to walk around with a mask?

 

Right. But we're not allowed to talk about that either. None of the harms caused by the lockdowns are to be discussed or acknowledged. Only the minute risks associated with normal life matter now.

 

WTF does that have to do with the OP?

Sweden didn't need a mask mandate because, to them, everybody looking after each other is second nature. They don't need a mandate to wear masks because, unlike our Trumpist right, their citizens are adults who understand what "doing the right thing" is.

So, again: what does this have to do with your OP? Are you trying to derail your own thread because.. you just realized you didn't have a point to begin with?

 

Everybody compared this to "The Great Depression". No one is bringing up the massive amounts of suicides that happened.

 

Lets look at the worst death rates per state. Per 100k. You sure about Trumpists? Might want to try again. But kudos for trying. Looong slow golf clap
New Jersey 178
New York 168
Massachusetts 125
Connecticut 124
Rhode Island 95
Louisiana 86
District of Columbia 83
Michigan 65
Illinois 61
Delaware 60
Maryland 58

The more you know the further you’ll go

 

1000% sure. Cherry picking numbers (or, worse yet, acting as if you don't understand them) is not going to help Trump supporters. The United States has the very worst response to this pandemic in the world. Nothing in history will ever take that dishonor from Trump.

 

Move them to Minnesota.

 

...and yet Sweden has a higher Covid-19 death rate than the US.

 

That's okay. Middle class Progressives (who claim to care deeply about the brown peasant) can sacrifice their soy lattes for life and feed a family in the Third World.

 

In a state of emergency, it's not reasonable to stop everything because a small percentage of people can't cope. They didn't do that in Jordan, or Vietnam, or Thailand .. or even New Zealand. When the chips are down, we have to pull on our big girl/boy pants. Those few remaining who can't or won't, will be the small price we pay for the good of all.

It's also important to remember that emergencies of this nature very often have the effect of being beneficial for a certain sector of the 'depressed', in that such people are taken out of themselves. They refocus themselves outwards, to the bigger picture - as they should always have done but were never taught or compelled to do.

 

America is like, the fattest country on earth. I doubt you'll lose anyone to starvation any time soon.

 

The suicides and homicides as a result of the government mandated lock down are out pacing the specious death count of COVID-19.

Oh look, government is once again (and always) the single greatest killer of people.

 

Didn't happen in Vietnam, or New Zealand.

We're resilient, us humans.

 

Evidently not that resilient, otherwise there would be no government mandated shutdowns. Evidently, the world needs a nanny and government.

Humans aren't resilient at all. We are cowering monkeys huddled in a cave awaiting a sign from a God that it's safe to come out into the sunshine.

If humans were resilient as you say, so many would not be so dependant upon government

 

Starvation is not one of the main causes of death in the US from Economic Distress. 35,000 will die for every 1% uptick in the unemployment rate .. and that is in normal times - in times of economic distress this number will likely be much higher.

 

Increased Suicides for sure - the study I read 35K dead per 1% increase in unemployment - as due to numerous factors - such as stress leading to increase in heart/cancer deaths - Stress leads to bad health in general. In my mind the figure is low .. not accounting for the increase in stress related bad health pneumonia deaths.

So this low estimate - not including some things it perhaps should - is in relatively normal times. In times of economic stress like this - that number can be much higher.

 

I “cherry picked” the top 10 death rates. You obviously don’t know what Cherry picking is. Cherry picking is claiming we had the worst response and blaming it on Trump when other countries have worth death rates than we do. AND other countries in EU and Asia are having spikes now as well.

Why are you arguing here when you are misinformed and ignorant on what’s actually happening. Watch less CNN and wake up to reality.

 

We've already mitigated the pandemic. More people are getting it fewer are dying from it. That's how you build herd immunity until we develope an effective vaccine.

 

No. You cherry picked a chart of death rates through the whole pandemic. Those occurring when doctors didn't know how to treat the virus mixed with those occurring now that they have a much much better idea.

And you do it in a an obvious desperate attempt to hide the fact that the President* is Trump. Not the governors. And his mishandling of the pandemic, lying, refusing support to the states, undermining his own experts, feeding pseudoscience to the people,... etc, has made this country's response to the pandemic the absolute worst in the world.

The death rates, the infection rate, the lack of resources to handle this... are occurring TODAY in states like Texas, Florida, Arizona, ...Over seven months after the first case was detected in the U.S. And this President* still undermines his own experts, making up pseudoscience, and pushing for nonsense (like opening schools, forcing people to vote in person, organize rallies indoors, etc.) that can only make everything worse.