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Denial of Abortion Hurts Women and can Kill them!

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Derideo_Te, Sep 6, 2020.

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  1. CWV

    CWV Well-Known Member

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    Oh no. These folks are claiming the women are responsible, and it is the women's choice whether to have sex or not.

    And speaking of mens responsibility, just check the child support laws in this country.

    I support abortion in cases of rape and incest. In those cases the men are responsible.
     
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    Yes

    very much so
     
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    I am asking if your opinion "They want to screw like whores" applies to men along with women?
     
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    And the ones “stealthing?

    and the ones, like the sub group of anti-abortionists on this forum who believe that “typical” use of condoms = complete birth control?

    Then there are the men like Trump - serial predators promising anything for, well we know what Trump calls it.
     
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    CWV Well-Known Member

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    Of course men want to screw practically every woman they see. The women are not obliged to spread their legs for any of them.
     
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    The only guaranteed form of birth control is abstinence.
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    REAL FACTS: Denying abortions kills and harms women.

    Denying abortions destroys women's rights.

    Denying abortion brings UNWANTED babies into the world.






    REAL FACT: Women are forced to gestate when abortions are made illegal thus difficult and sometimes impossible to get especially in a timely manner.

    REAL FACT: FORCE is what rapists use, like those who demand women remain pregnant, they have that in common, forcing women to do their bidding..





    REAL FACT: They aren't.





    REAL FACT: They are.

    They are responsible , NOT YOU....so they decide whether to abort or gestate...




    LOL! I see you don't want to address facts, just scream from the pulpit...

    But I'll hit you with more facts anyway:

    NO woman can CHOOSE to get pregnant.

    Calling women whores...well, we know where that comes from ;) ;)

    Women do not CLAIM the right to their own bodies, they HAVE those rights :nana:


    IF it's murder why haven't you done your civic duty and reported it to the police???
     
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    So, if I'm understanding you, it also applies to men?

    Is a woman *obligated* to "spread her legs" for her husband?
     
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    Women are NOT obliged to screw whoever YOU designate....they screw whomever they like without YOUR permission and if they have an unwanted pregnancy they get an abortion :) :) :):nana:
     
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    Yep! Total ****ing ignorance of birth control. I have lost count of the number of so called anti abortionists whom I have had to educate in relation to reliable and what is not reliable birth control. You would expect this group would be MORE informed about birth control since they seem willing to tell women how to control reproduction but facts are that at least once every three months I have had to post links and advice on basic contraception.
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    Ya, but preaching abstinence hasn't worked in 10,000 years...you might want to take note....or maybe just keep screaming "Don't get pregnant!" and "Abstinence works" ...and see where it gets ya :)
     
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    Because it's legal, just like the death penalty.

    Don't get me wrong. I support the idea of the left killing their offspring. Just not for the same reasons as you.

    Just call it what it is. It's a choice to murder.
     
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    No.
     
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    It is what it is.
     
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    Awesome. I support that.

    Just call it what it is. Murder.
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    REAL FACTS: Denying abortions kills and harms women.

    Denying abortions destroys women's rights.

    Denying abortion brings UNWANTED babies into the world.




    REAL FACT: Women are forced to gestate when abortions are made illegal thus difficult and sometimes impossible to get especially in a timely manner.

    REAL FACT: FORCE is what rapists use, like those who demand women remain pregnant, they have that in common, forcing women to do their bidding..

    REAL FACT: They aren't.

    REAL FACT: They are.

    They are responsible , NOT YOU....so they decide whether to abort or gestate...






    LOL! I see you don't want to address facts, just scream from the pulpit...

    But I'll hit you with more facts anyway:

    NO woman can CHOOSE to get pregnant.

    Calling women whores...well, we know where that comes from ;) ;)

    Women do not CLAIM the right to their own bodies, they HAVE those rights :nana:


    IF it's murder why haven't you done your civic duty and reported it to the police???


    DUH, if it's legal it isn't murder.

    So "all life is precious" is a lie?






    No, it's abortion.


    I note YOU COULD NOT ADDRESS ANY ISSUES IN THE POST OF MINE YOU QUOTED nor refute anything therein :)
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    Ya, but preaching abstinence hasn't worked in 10,000 years...you might want to take note....or maybe just keep screaming "Don't get pregnant!" and "Abstinence works" ...and see where it gets ya :)


    LOL, the cop out answer....when one has NOTHING to refute with or reply with ;)
     
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    Elders got raked over the coals on that one. Unconscionable.
     
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    Fact #1 Denying abortion actually increases the rate and massively increases maternal death rate and infant death rate (please ask me to validate this with research please please!)

    Fact #2 Ireland locked young girls who had been raped in psychiatric wards to prevent them getting abortions.

    Fact 3# Taking a women’s choice away increases family poverty

    Men are NOT held “accountable” at contraception if they truly were there would be more options for men to prevent pregnancy

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    You're wrong.
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    I note YOU COULD NOT ADDRESS ANY ISSUES IN THE POST OF MINE YOU QUOTED nor refute anything therein :)



    LOL....but YOU can't show why ????....:)
     
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    If a man can be held responsible for 18 years of child support after conception, then why can't a woman? Why can't the man just offer to pay for an abortion and be absolved of his responsibility? Why do men have no choice but to be poor because they are forced to pay for a child they can't afford and will have a very hard time seeing? Women are given the option to kill the baby and be done with the responsibility, but men have no choice.

    It should be one way or another. Either both parents should be able to avoid supporting a child, or both parents should be held responsible for their decision at conception.
     
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    Women are...



    He can.

    Because it's a CHILD.


    Not once HIS baby is BORN.

    And, why don't Anti-Choicers ever advise MEN to "just not have sex" ?




    Parents are able to avoid supporting a child, they can put it up for adoption or the woman can have an abortion.

    Men don't conceive ...they aren't the pregnant ones, they do NOT own the body of the pregnant one and can neither force her to gestate nor abort....that's a good thing.:)
     
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    You will not find any posts by me that indicate that she can't be held responsible for 18 years of child support. Anybody with a child/ren knows that they cost money way beyond the age of 18. That's just the cutoff for how long the government says we have to provide for them.

    This teeters very closely to the wage discrepancy (for the same job) between genders.

    Who said that he cannot make that offer? I know several men that use that very tactic regularly to justify not using condoms and know several women that have accepted.

    Countless men paying child support are not poor and have relationships with their children. Those are not mutually exclusive.

    I agree IN PART and not because I believe that men have a right to dictate what a woman should do with her own body, but because I've seen this weaponized against men.

    That is the exact situation when adoption is chosen. However, adoption is basically "choosing a designer baby" and millions of "not popular" babies and children are left in overcrowded orphanages and/or foster homes until they age out at 18.
     
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    I don't need to. Murder is wrong. It baffles my mind how people can twist reality to believe it isn't.
     
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