Trump is considering 'herd immunity', the failed Covid strategy which killed thousands in Europe

That is not an accurate statement. Trump certainly made matters worse, but the initial impetus was from Fauci & Friends.

If you have the intellectual and moral courage to watch this video for 1:15, you will be informed.

https://www.ise.media/video/plandemic-ii-indoctornation-23.html

Watch it and experience cognitive dissonance.

 

Save us the QAnon bullshit mmmmkay?

 

Which we have zero evidence was valid

 

No validation for your claim

 

N it was dumb because it was dumb - with added TWonkerism

 

Hmm, "nonscientific". Well here's just the first 1% of an index of reviews and studies behind the efficiency of masks. All of them should be available for free public viewing although I haven't personally checked each paper. (Click the spoiler button below)

Spoiler: Click to reveal.

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Yes, nonscientific. You can't use a mask rated for 3,000nm (or higher) to stop or prevent the spread of a virus that is only 100nm (plus or minus) in size...

 

Assuming the virus travels by itself. It doesn’t. It attaches to mucus etc that is much larger

 

I've had my fill of "experts" personally.

 

It travels in various ways. One way is by itself (via air). There is nothing that requires a virus to be attached to or contained inside of something else.

 

QAnon feels the same.

meh “experts” huh?

 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/...spreads-through-the-air-what-we-know-so-far1/

Note that even in “aerial transmission” it is referred to as traveling in DROPLETS

And even there airborne transmission (suspension in air for any length of time) is considered theoretical

 

And what's cool, I guess, is that we have thousands dead AND thousands who've lost their jobs and their homes and their businesses and life savings.

Aren't you thrilled!?!?

 

Pseudo-science is basically a shield of tempered steel for some anti-maskers.

 

I get it; Santa Claus will feed us while we cower under our sheets.

 

Mantras 4a, 4b. (False Source)

Droplets are not required for aerial transmission.

No, it is very very real. It is known knowledge that airborne viruses can survive suspended in the air for hours.

 

According to the source linked...yea..they are. You don't spew dry virus. It comes out of your body attached to your spittle...your breath...ya know...DROPLETS

That's not the point. There is considerable doubt regarding airborne transmission (basically breath) as opposed to spittle or coughs/sneezes

Then post a rebuttal link that supports your nonsense

 

Also

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7357397/

 

Corrupted science is a vehicle to fool the public and the few conscientious leaders we have.

Corrupted science is what Fauci, Tedros and Gates are all about. Corrupted science mesmerizes the credulous and makes them go mad.

 

"Corrupted Science"...a claim of QAnon and Russian agitprop

Go away

 

Corrupted science, a plague of corruption, the inconvenient but painfully obvious truth.

 

False sources and irrelevant links.

You cannot use a mask rated for 3,000+nm to stop viruses that are ~100nm (give or take).

 

Sure you can.
They perform much better than their specs.
It's the same thing that was wrong with your N95 mask assumptions.

 

Keep trying to stop water with a spaghetti strainer...

I won't stop you. I will just continue to laugh at you.

 

Sadly for your case, while concept of a smallest particles of a virus may land on a human body, the fact is that having droplets of groups of the active virus on a receptive tissue is what is needed to reasonably require transmission into the receptive person. While its remotely possible to cause infection, it is not likely.

But if the infected person who has no mask sneezes, and the recipient has no mask, we THEN will see YOUR scenario of a pot of spaghetti with COVID sauce be thrown into the bare face of the receptive person, and then is can likely receive a viable dose of COVID disease.

But wearing a mask of an infected person will be actually to likely to stop COVID "water" to hit the face of mask wearer, who will also be very unlikely to actually be get in physical in skin touch because of the "spaghetti strainer" mask, and once again COVID fails in its task!

If BOTH wore masks, while conceivably possible to share COVID, it is not likely at all.