FoxHastings said: ↑ YUPPERS! That is what women do....they get to CHOOSE whether to gestate or abort... WHY DOES THAT DISTURB YOU ? NO where did I claim women can't make rational choices …..but SOME people can't make rational arguments without ..uh..."embellishing" what others say....they have NO point otherwise
FoxHastings said: ↑ Women can have all the sex they want and YOU can't stop them You seem hard up for answers and facts as PROVEN here..... Your answer has nothing to do with what I posted...just striking out in FRUSTRATION with a typical sexist trite meaningless unimaginative insult....too funny …!!
You seem to be making the mistake that people are entitled to guarantees. guarantees to have sex with no pregnancy, guarantees to have a stable marriage after they give birth, absolute guarantees to have absolutely no health problems at all if she is forced to choose to continue on with the pregnancy. What pro-lifers have to offer is likelihoods, not absolute 100% guarantees "or your money back".
NO, that is NOT what he said...…....seems the wrong end of the stick is your "go-to" for everything...
It's pretty much what you're all saying. Perfect everything with zero consequences .. or all bets are off and you can do what you like. Like I said, cruel but clever.
You are. You're suggesting (in pretty much every defence you've made) that women don't understand consequences and can't make sound choices in regard to their own bodies ... therefore they need the gargantuan overkill of this particular remediation. No, it's pretty accurate. If you think no one can see what you're doing, you're in dreamland.
The only disturbing thing is that you keep dancing around the elephant in the room. Trying desperately to separate the consequence from the FREELY CHOSEN action. I understand why you do it, IOW. It's what those with poorly considered motives and/or sinister intentions always do in these types of scenarios.
I NEVER said that and you have NO PROOF I did....talk about Dreamland.... "no one" ? Can't speak for yourself ?
So if women are perfectly capable of making choices in regards to their own bodies, how are they conceiving?
FoxHastings said: ↑ YUPPERS! That is what women do....they get to CHOOSE whether to gestate or abort... WHY DOES THAT DISTURB YOU ? No, I am not....actions have consequences....and YOU may be frustrated because YOU can't dictate what those consequences are OOOOH! "Sinister intentions" !!! How spooky !!! LOL That is what women do....they get to CHOOSE whether to gestate or abort... WHY DOES THAT DISTURB YOU ? WHY can't you answer that question?
crank said: ↑ You are. You're suggesting (in pretty much every defence you've made) that women don't understand consequences and can't make sound choices in regard to their own bodies"""""""""" FoxHastings: I NEVER said that and you have NO PROOF I did....talk about Dreamland....""" LOL You don't know how women conceive !!!! ??? Try a book on biology ….
MJ Davies said: ↑ There is no such thing as a stable and financially secure marriage. There can be the illusion of such but separation and divorce rates, extra-martial affairs and court cases prove, without any doubt, that NOTHING is guaranteed even in the (alleged) sanctity of marriage. SHOW WHERE in the post you quoted where the poster said """"that people are entitled to guarantees"""" He said the opposite...DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
crank said: ↑ Yet you claim women can't make rational choices. Make up your mind.""""""""""""" FoxHastings: NO where did I claim women can't make rational choices …..but SOME people can't make rational arguments without ..uh..."embellishing" what others say....they have NO point otherwise
1) Is it not you who always says that women choose sex, but not pregnancy? That can only be understood one way, and that is that you think women don't know that sex causes pregnancy, or that they're incapable of making choices in consideration of that. 2) Exactly. So you agree that sex causes conception. Good. Try to never lose sight of that.
It was YOU who asked the question... I answered :LOL You don't know how women conceive !!!! ??? Try a book on biology ….
FoxHastings said: ↑ FoxHastings: I NEVER said that and you have NO PROOF I did....talk about Dreamland....""" LOL You don't know how women conceive !!!! ??? Try a book on biology Yes, women can choose to have sex but canNOT choose whether they will conceive or not.... Uh, it's about science so maybe you shouldn't try to understand.... , Oh heck no, you seem to be able to run all over with it with whacky interpretations that have nothing to do with what was actually said... You don't like what was posted so you seem to have to change it to have any point at all...not a valid way to have an argument.. I NEVER said that and you have NO PROOF I did I NEVER said that and you have NO PROOF I did Having sex can cause conception ….CHOOSING to conceive doesn't.
crank said: ↑ Yet you claim women can't make rational choices. Make up your mind.""""""""""""" FoxHastings: NO where did I claim women can't make rational choices …..but SOME people can't make rational arguments without ..uh..."embellishing" what others say....they have NO point otherwise
His argument seemed to be implying that if women couldn't get any guarantees, that means they should have the choice.
If they can make rational choices, then it is they who have chosen whether they want to engage in activities that could result in a pregnancy. Thus, a choice has been made by them. Even if pro-lifers get their way. I think that's what crank was trying to say.
That's the problem...you and "implying"....he didn't IMPLY anything , he stated facts. FoxHastings said: ↑ SHOW WHERE in the post you quoted where the poster said """"that people are entitled to guarantees"""" as YOU claimed. He said the opposite
FoxHastings said: ↑ NO where did I claim women can't make rational choices "if" ? WHY TF shouldn't women be able to make rational choices??? That doesn't necessarily follow but if they do it's THEIR decision....not anyone else's...NOT yours. Ya, so???? They made a choice...people do it all day everyday...make choices, don't YOU??? WTF ?
That's not true. You make statements that have pretty clearly implied messages all the time. It's only fair for me to respond to those messages, even if you did not specifically and clearly state them. If you want to come out and clearly deny that's what you meant, you are clearly welcome to do so.
How do YOU think conception (ie, unprotected sex) happens outside of rape? Or do you think these conceptions are immaculate?