Sanders Coup Attempt Against Biden

They will fail miserably, like they failed in 2016 and in the 2020 primaries.

The ridiculous loser called Bernie Sanders decided to retain his delegates and not fully concede on grounds that he'd have influence in the convention. LOL, Biden gathered way more pledged delegates than the threshold and had no need for any of Bernie's delegates whatsoever. Bernie's lame, narcissistic and arrogant move (previously unheard of; all candidates who drop out, opt for stopping accruing delegates and endorsing a remaining candidate) again was cut to his ridiculous small size and he was humiliated again. This wasn't advertised and went a bit behind the scenes because the DNC *for now* doesn't want to alienate Bernie's followers until Nov 3rd, but after that, they will be discarded like the losers that they are.

Only you and a bunch of other equally obsessed people, keep whining about Bernie and the Squad. They are strident but are irrelevant losers who will NEVER win a true majoritarian race for higher office.

Bernie is lucky that for some weird reasons the people in Vermont still see him somewhat favorably (although by a very tiny majority; in the primaries in his own home state, this time he dropped from something like 85% in 2016 to 50.5%) because he is statistically one of the most ineffective senators ever, belonging in the bottom 4% in terms of legislative accomplishments.

Put it in your head once and for all: Bernie Sanders is a loser. He is a pariah in the Senate. Nobody wants his socialist ideas, or AOC's. They have a small fringe that roots for them, but they are insignificant.

The idea that they dominate the Democratic Party is extremely ridiculous. If they did, they wouldn't have the need to mount this parallel operation. Get it? This should function as the confirmation of what I've been telling you and you insist in ignoring.

What is your objective? Do you want to damage Biden electorally by insinuating that he'll allow this far leftist fringe to prevail? Do you want to scare away undecided voters? Newsflash: it won't work. Trump will lose in 9 days, anyway.

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This said, there is ONE avenue left for Trump to get a second term: claim bogus fraud, take it to the courts (packed with his buddies including his new puppet, Justice Barrett), have the courts stall the count and drag it on until the deadlines pass with no certifiable result, and then the VP election goes to the Senate (Pence wins) and the presidential election goes to the House, with one vote per delegation, the GOP has 26, Trump wins.

Of course, this will be stealing... but that's his only chance, and he plans to go this route, you'll see. May even succeed. But if he does, it will be the end of American Democracy and an era of Banana Republic-style dictatorship will begin.

If you support this, shame on you.

 

We're half way there, if not farther... We've lost free media, they are totally subservient to the ruling class, we officially have censorship. Without free independent media there can't be democracy... the only thing standing between us and a totalitarian state is Trump.

 

I just read today, there is just one pro-life democrat left in the Democratic party. And there is just one democrat with an A+ NRA rating left in the democratic party.... And it's the same one person

 

Kamala is only interested in fostering Kamala. She will do and say whatever advances her career and her ambitions. I think her integrity is only slightly better than Trump's. She was a horrible pick for veep. I hope Biden doesn't croak for four more years.

As for Sanders out-debating Biden, you don't seem to have watched the Biden-Sanders debate in the primaries, when Biden wiped the floor with Sanders. Remember, Biden beat Sanders by 8 million popular votes.

And AOC, that dumb bartender? LOL.

 

Who?

 

Look, the idea that Biden is demented is so old by now... Move on, because in the debates he clearly showed that he is not.

And the funny thing is, if his brain is shot like you say, what does that say about Trump? Because Biden is routing your boy Donnie... LOL

 

You've heard of google by any chance, right?

Anyway, I feel generous today, it's Collin Peterson, Minnesota.

 

If you think there are enough members reading this forum to sway an election, or that my rambling musings would have any suasion to that end, then I don't know what to tell you.

It does look like Biden is going to win, so I'm am simply looking ahead at what's next. Politics doesn't sleep. The big machine of government keeps grinding away slowly, but it grinds everything in its path to a fine powder.

You had probably best be prepared for the launch of the Socialist agenda on day one of a Biden administration, rather than be caught surprised and off guard. The Progressives are few, but they are picking up seats this election. They are also very loud and completely uncompromising. Those attributes will earn media time and attention, and we know that media can persuade the public's attitude like the drip drip drip of Chinese water torture.

This article is a nice preview of the Working Families Party’s “People’s Charter", coming soon to a government near you:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/08/progressive-agenda-2021-joe-biden-427673

 

Why? Should we just take it from them and give it to someone else???? Listen, life ain't even stevens and class envy is a much bigger problem than wealth differences. Unless you win a lottery, wealth doesn't just fall out of the sky. Even obscene wealth is rooted in hard work and sacrifice somewhere back in time. You may not be the recipient of great wealth but you can be the creator or at least a link in the chain of created wealth and pass it on to your children and grandchildren and so on. Poverty is something that is self inflicted and the product of bad choices. It has nothing to do with any one but the individual. We're a couple of generations in of people who think they are entitled to income without having to work for it. This entitlement has erased work ethic and understanding the relationship between work and wealth. If you think wealth redistribution is the answer why don't you give 25% of your income to someone less well off than you, see how that works out.

 

The Democrat Party started radicalizing after the "Peace, Love, Drugs" hippies era. They were patient and moved slowly so not many people noticed the slow creeping changes. The pandemic and economic shutdown is an open window of opportunity for them to take a chance and pounce. What do they have to loose? "Free stuff" is going to be more attractive than ever while much of the economy is shut down.

 

I'm sorry that he's not from my state. I could vote for a conservative Democrat. Or not. I've voted already, and I voted for the Republican senator and the Republican House Representative from my district - for checks and balances, especially if Biden croaks and Harris becomes POTUS, God forbid, but I voted for Biden for president because I don't want Trump's team to continue to mismanage the pandemic.

 

Nearly 60% of Americans don't expect Biden to make it through four years. He is too frail and in cognitive decline.

Yes, we will most likely get unpredictable President Kamala Harris. Her husband campaigned for her recently and said, "I'm married to the next president of the United States." I don't think he divorced Kamala and married Biden, though that might explain the extended stay basement honeymoon.

Dumb bartender. The current dictator of Venezuela made a living as a bus driver. Yes, he's an idiot. He also has total control over an entire country which used to be rich and prosperous not too long ago. People voted for Socialism. Don't think it can't happen here.

Meet the future First Husband of the White House:

 

His only platform is "I'm not that guy." He's the laziest candidate in history, but he knows he doesn't have to work to earn anyone's vote in a traditional way. Media and DNC leadership convinced enough people that Trump is evil incarnate and not worthy of human respect.

Extreme political propaganda is very much like religious dogma. Trump is the devil, except there is a vacuum where the savior is supposed to be. People will be fighting for that title as soon as Biden is seated, because it ain't him.

 

You are underestimating the Internet. Sure, we may be a small part of it, but in 2016 the Russians had an armada posting around, everywhere, Facebook, Tweeter, forums. I was in another forum and I'm quite sure that some of the new registrants were Russian agents (given the style of phrasing, a poor command of English, and the trollish provocations as well as misinformation).

I'm in no way, shape, or form, insinuating that you are a Russian agent, LOL. I know you're legit. But you could be trying to influence a few people here, someone like you might be trying to influence a few people somewhere else, and somewhere else, and somewhere else, etc. You add a grain of sand here, someone else adds another grain of sand elsewhere and suddenly you have a dune. Studies have shown that the action of the Russians in 2016 did influence the results of the election.

I do NOT believe that the Democratic Party will embrace a socialist agenda. It would be political suicide because it is soundly defeated by the voters. The Democratic voters and Dem-leaning independents have just inflicted a resounding spanking of the socialists. The DNC is establishment, and moderate. Biden is establishment, and moderate.

It is true that I don't trust Kamala Harris, but it's not that she is progressive. She is whatever she thinks will advance her short-term and long-term ambitions. If Biden croaks she will be a horrible president; I don't think she'd be better than Trump. They have many of the same flaws (arrogant narcissism and self-interest above all). At one point I was sure that I wouldn't vote for the ticket if Biden picket Harris (or that phony, Warren). Later I had to pinch my note and vote for the ticket anyway, because I consider them to be the lesser of two evils, and I hope that Biden is healthier and with more longevity than people expect.

 

I disagree with you on the pandemic frankly, not that Trump managed it perfectly from the Monday morning quarterbacking point of view but I have zero reason to believe that a Democrat or anyone else would have done any better in terms of the results, most likely much worse. They would have been more politically correct of course, more CYA, more "emphatic", there is zero chance they'd have less cases or deaths or a better economic recovery.

60 mln Americans got H1N1 virus under Obama/Biden, Luckily it was not as deadly but it was hardly a smashing success.

That said I do respect and appreciate your balanced and thoughtful position.

 

Well, it seems like you haven't read his platform (I have) and you haven't watched his town hall (the day when Trump chickened out) where he was quite substantial about policies.

But yes, this election is a referendum on Trump, and he is losing it out of his own shortcomings and screw-ups. Don't blame anyone else. Sure, Biden is not great, but he is the viable alternative and if he picks well his cabinet and doesn't croak in the next four years, I expect him to be a slightly better president than Trump. Then we can vote him out in 2024 if he even runs. Hopefully there will be someone better either in the Republican Party (please, no Don Jr or Ivanka) or in the Dem primaries.

 

So, someone influenced a few people who influenced a few people who influenced a few people, and then you decided to vote for Biden President Harris. LOL

Ah, well. We shall live through it. Complete disaster or not, richer or poorer, more divided than ever, it probably won't kill us.

 

I'm not as worried about what has been done (although many mistakes were made) as I am about the boneheaded "herd immunity" approach that Scott Atlas and Trump are willing to embrace, now. I won't explain why it's a disaster here, but if you're interested, I've posted extensively and in excruciating detail why it's the worst possible approach. And advanced search in my posting history with the keyword Herd and me a post author would unearth those numerous posts.

The thing is, we need to get rid of ALL the main players in the taskforce, the HHS, CDC, and the FDA. Especially, we need to get rid of Scott Atlas.

When a team is repeatedly losing and the coach and assistant coaches are calling the wrong plays, we need to fire the coach and his assistants, and hire new ones. It's as simple as that.

Thank you for the compliment.

 

Things are not what you seem to think they are. They just seem that way to you. I pay attention to the strategies on both sides of the aisle.

Yes, Trump was competing against Trump. Biden hasn't been in the race. He is simply the not Trump place holder until we figure out who gets to pull the strings.

 

Now you are underestimating *me*.
My vote was very thoughtful and very informed.
My reasons to pick Biden are numerous and very well documented in my posting history (including, I sponsored a detailed discussion in a thread I started that went several pages and hundreds of posts, entitled something like "Am I the last undecided voter?" I was not influenced by anybody. My decision was primarily out of my professional knowledge of Medicine, Infectious Diseases, Virology, and Epidemiology, given that my priorities for deciding were the (mis)management of the pandemic and the lack of a coherent healthcare policy. Other reasons played a role too, but every voter has his/her priorities.

 

Then why do you continue to support the Democrats ?

The big money elites are supporting Biden and hope to get him to once again give then the leverage they need to sell out this country and store their wealth in other currencies.

 

We have 3 choices, a vaccine/vastly improved therapeutic treatmert, herd immunity or total economic devastation (without any guarantee that it will eliminate the virus). We are all hoping for a vaccine of course, if one is not found (which is quite possible), managed (masks, social distancing, hygiene but life goes on kind of managing) herd immunity might be the only remaining viable choice. Trying to starve the virus to death through infinite lockdowns is the classic cure that's worse than the problem. But that's me and I am not a doctor

 

From cracked
You "never got help from anybody."
Nothing was "handed to you."
All right.
Let's say you scratched and you clawed and climbed the ladder of success. You never took a welfare check or charity, you worked three jobs to get through college. And at the end of it you look back on your labors and feel justified in saying, "I never got help from anybody."
So ... you were never a child? From birth, you were hunting and gathering your own food? You never had a mother to "hand" you milk?
You're completely self-educated? At age 4, you sought out your own knowledge, and paid teachers out of your own pocket?
I don't think you did. I'd have seen something about it on the news.
I think your parents poured untold resources into your hungry mouth. I think you had a roof over your head that was paid for by other people, I think you went to schools that were built and staffed and paid for by other people, I think you felt safe because the streets were patrolled by other people, I think you drove to your three jobs on roads paved by other people, in a car built by other people and burning oil that was drilled by other people in a nation whose borders were defended by other people.
Look, I understand why "I ain't asking for help from nobody!" individualism works as an attitude, or a philosophy. No, you shouldn't wait for help to come along. I'll even agree that we don't impress that message hard enough on kids when they're growing up. Kids, if you're reading this, and you ****ing shouldn't be, but if you are, let me tell you now:
The world doesn't give a **** about you, and you'll have to wrestle it for every good thing you get. Hell, I've written an entire article about how grown-ups don't tell us how freaking hard everything is, and how the shock of unexpected effort trips us up.
But, for the rich, this somehow gets extended to the absolutely delusional idea that they exist on a purely self-sufficient island, in an ocean full of shiftless layabouts always asking to borrow their stuff.

 

Trump is currently winning dude...

The only quest is "by how much?"

 

It's looking like we may have a vaccine by early December, thanks to Trump's Warp Speed initiative. Small quantities at first though, so limited distribution would go to nursing homes, medical staff, and others most at risk. Vaccinate the vulnerable and the healthy can drive natural herd immunity.

There has to be a balance between virus risk and avoiding economic disaster, poverty and homelessness. Trump is focused more on economic recovery. Biden is focused more on virus risk.

Either way, Trump has gotten a strong potential vaccine almost all the way through the pipeline in record time, so either man will look like "the hero" when it launches. Honest people will know Trump's agility in thinking like a businessman instead of a politician got us a "warp speed" vaccine, even if Biden gets the credit.