Biden floats rotating Supreme Court justices if he is elected

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  1. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Because Republicans refused to appoint Garland, Obama's pick. That's cheating to them.
     
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    they changed the votes for SC judges to 50, insuring a far right judge was seated (60 votes kept the SC from swinging too far right or left)

    they denied Obama a pick on an election year, saying the people should pick, but let Trump pick on an election year

    repubs did this as the rules allowed it

    dems will add seats and seat the new judges with the repubs 50 vote rule, cause the rules allow it
     
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    both sides not playing fair, I see no end to that, if the rules allow it, the parties will now do it
     
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    and changed the votes to 50, and not applying the same rules they did to Obama 4 years earlier to Trump

    now dems will add seats and you will not be angry about any of this
     
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    No SC justice has ever been appointed in a final year of a Presidency when there is a split government. Adding seats will show democrats to be a bunch of sore losers. At the end of the day, the stars aligned and various decisions were made which enabled Trump 3 nominations, for example Obama being a sitting duck President from 2012-2016 and RBG not retiring under Obama.
     
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    And you're here cheering it on.
     
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    no SC judge was ever seated with 50 votes, now 3 have - times have changed, so yes, dems will add seats, and nothing the right can do about it
     
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    I am, fair is fair - we can't let the right keep a far right SC because of their rule changes - I think it's sad we have come to this point, but we are here
     
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    The retirement of a judge is a routine event...

    It should never make power grabs possible, but that is precisely what is happening, as we speak.

    More justices would add stability, and that would help. We should also apply the rules to SC judges that all other judges have to follow. The Right side of the court has proven they need those rules, and badly.
     
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    Which just proves my whole point in post 64. And shows you were being disingenuous in post 72.
     
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    the right got greedy and stole the court and seated the sc judges with 50 votes, sorry, that will have consequences

    we can both be sad it has got to this point, but neither of us should be angry, the rules allow it, so both sides are just following the rules, how can anyone be angry at a side that follows the rules... right?

    60 votes kept the SC judges more centered, now they will be far left or far right going forward
     
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    You can still pretend that a guy who cheats on his pregnant wife with a pornstar understands what it says in the Bible.

    And no President will have weakened this democracy and trampled on the Constitution as much as Trump.
     
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    Out of curiosity, are you one of the liberals who realizes that they are working to maximize the profits of the elite at the expense of the human rights of the rest or are you one that actually believes the lies they are peddling?
     
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    what? I want to help the working class, I support less tax cuts for the rich and more for the working class

    I support laws reducing foreign outsourcing as I see it as a national security risk to let other countries like India control all our data

    are you one of those conservatives that thinks the rich deserves more tax cuts and total power over the people
     
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    Face it, the left is not capable of winning in our free Constitutional Republic....no leftist really could be successful in a free society like ours....that's why if in power they plan on fundamentally transforming our system of Govt and up rooting the freedoms our Constitution provides in or to maintain authoritarian control
     
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    Gay marriage. Obamacare, abortion, termination of DACA just a few off the top of my head
     
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    What you forget california voted no to gay marriage?
     
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    So the President tried to tell you libs not to do the ignorant vote by mail because it creates a massive issue instead vote in person. Now your saying he's the one trying to steal the election due to the vote by mail. Dem Logic 101 on display.
     
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    Harry is that you, we warned you what the nuclear option would do and now you reap the rewards. Give it up, if ole Harry wouldn't have blown up the Senate with the nuclear option NONE of this would be possible nor Kavenaugh for that matter. Now in your head you think court packing wouldn't come back to bite you. Brilliant!
     
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    Elections have consequences...isn't that the saying?

    There were a number of republicans who were all about letting 'the people' decide on a SCOTUS nominee in 2016. But when an opportunity came up in their favor, they simply couldn't resist. Let's throw 'fairness' out of the equation and just focus on honor and dignity. If you so blatantly cannot stand by your word, what is left?

    If you think that Dems are just stand by and allow Republicans to get away with this kind of double standard, I think you'll be very disappointed. When underhanded actions are the modus operandi of one side, the other side is forced to play the same game.

    On Feb. 23, 2016, Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee — including Sens. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Charles E. Grassley of Iowa and John Cornyn and Ted Cruz of Texas — informed McConnell they would not hold hearings for any Obama nominee. The senators wrote that the American people had “an exceedingly rare opportunity to decide, in a very real and concrete way, the direction the Court will take over the next generation.

    “Not since 1932 has the Senate confirmed in a presidential election year a Supreme Court nominee to a vacancy arising in that year,” they wrote in their letter. “And it is necessary to go even further back — to 1888 — in order to find an election year nominee who was nominated and confirmed under divided government, as we have now.”


    https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-09-21/republicans-flip-flop-rbg-scotus-replacement
     
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    I love guys that attack Trump and his misdeeds then bring up the bible. Something tells me based on your posts on Trump, you have trouble understanding the bible as well lol! Do as I say not as I do are not in the bible my friend.
     
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    So your mad Garland wasn't approved in an election year and mad Barrett was approved during an election year. Sounds like politics you're mad about my friend. Anyone think Dems wouldn't have done the exact same thing?
     
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    Nope, not mad. Or surprised. Nor am I naive, as I do understand politics. But I had hoped the Reps weren't capable of such stupidity and brazenly dirty politics. Now I know - and I won't make that mistake again.
     
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    So you were hoping Republicans wouldn't do what Democrats started. The fallacy is that once the nuclear option became viable it literally turned the Senate into the House. The Senate had always been ruled by precedent, once precedent is broken you can't seal it back up because you don't agree with those now in power. Unfortunately for all of us, both sides are made from the same cloth. Most Politicians are despicable human beings that are only there for power and cash on both sides. It's been the case since the beginning of time my friend.
     
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    I was hoping the Republicans would do as they said they would. Even offering to use their own words against them in future. Just one big show in order to get their way.

    I'm aware of the despicable nature of politics, as I said. But such brazen hypocrisy and lies are pushing it. At least for me.
     

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