If Biden wins... can we come together on this Forum?

Weird question. How should I know when "the left" started despising Trump? I cant tell you when it was that I started despising him. That was when he started torturing children. That, for me, turned my concern about his incompetence and dishonesty into a realization of what a sub-human despicable individual this creep was. As it should any person who places basic human morals before partisanship.

 

Why won't it last forever? Are you prepared for a sufficiently stringent censorship to take your bogey men of the air.

Perhaps you are. Many progressives are.

 

He thinks you are supposed to believe everything on the internet.

 

Then why are some countries which have had high mask usage, no better off or worse than certain other countries which had less mask wearing?

 

Which countries are those?

 

Italy for example has INSANELY strict mask wearing mandates and it has been OBLITERATED!

 

But weren't they put on AFTER Italy had become the first European nation to have had very bad results?
The nations that have done well have been almost uniformly thoroughly masked from the beginning. At least one, S Korea has been one where masking up even when you just have a cold is a tradition of some standing.

 

I like to substitute "and then we have present-day Republicans" for the middle statement above but the mods have kindly informed me that kind of statement is not civil discourse if meant seriously, so I'm including it as a joke

 

With me, it was when he continued to call for the execution of 4 wrongly convicted men after DNA evidence exonerated them beyond any shadow of doubt whatsoever.

 

Please show some evidence that Trump tortured children. Don't you see the insanity of this statement? You probably reveled in the Russia collusion as well. Right?

 

Huh? It has been all over the news for the last two years. Don't tell me you voted for this guy and you didn't know that he tortured children...

Start here
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...n-policy-545-children-parents-still-not-found

And continue here
https://judiciary.house.gov/uploade...struction_and_chaos.pdf?utm_campaign=4526-519

It's very important that every American knows of Trump's torture policy. Trump's collusion with Russia was immoral and criminal. But his torture policy goes way beyond that.

 

No mention of torture. Many kids came into the country with strangers, not their parents.

Partisan politics.

There was no Russian collusion. There was no torture either. Stop this nonsense. Revel in your electoral win. Be happy.

 

Torture!

18 U.S. Code § 2340
(1)
“torture” means an act committed by a person acting under the color of law specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering incidental to lawful sanctions) upon another person within his custody or physical control;
severe mental pain or suffering” means the prolonged mental harm caused by or resulting from—
(A)
the intentional infliction or threatened infliction of severe physical pain or suffering;
...
[or]
...
(D)
the threat that another person will imminently be subjected to death, severe physical pain or suffering...

It's amazing how people can vote for a candidate for President and not care enough to research what the guy has done.

So you're saying that ignoring proven facts makes you happy?

Sorry. It doesn't work for me. I prefer to live in reality.

 

With the collapse of the Soviet Union, the only enemies left are ourselves.

 

You don't even recognize reality. I would enjoy reading your proof about Russian collusion which was resoundingly proved false. The torture thing is simply silly and nonsensical. Your quote simply doesn't apply.

 

OMG. Another Fox fan.

Look... Barr's "summary" of the Mueller report was tergiversated. As Mueller himself told Barr. There is enormous collusion between the Trump Campaign and the Russian government in the Mueller Report. There is even more evidence in the subsequent Republican Intelligence Committee Report. The 100% proven cases of obstruction by Trump, all by themselves, constitute collusion. That's obstruction of the investigation into Russian intervention. If you obstruct the investigation, you are colluding.

What part does not apply? You don't think that a policy to forcefully separate children from their parents for.. days... weeks... months... maybe forever, is not "intentional infliction of severe suffering"?

Listen to this and then tell me it doesn't apply. Be aware that over 666 (interesting number) of these children have not seen their parents in 2 years.



It's torture! Reverence to "The Idol" will never remove that fact.

 

Bologna they let down their guard and opened up. Thank goodness we have the orange clown and the ridiculous GOP America to misinform and Misinspire the rest of the world... A a r r g g h h h h

 

I consider myself an idealistic pragmatist. So, while I acknowledge the possibility of America's grass-roots citizenry assuming a new, rational outlook on the idea of being locked in a tug of war for the steering wheel, while our vehicle barrels towards the future's treeline, directly ahead, I also appreciate the fact that a majority of people take the example of their leaders. Do you disagree (why else, then, is there a complaint that Trump doesn't MODEL desired behavior)? And how have Republican leaders been
accepting Trump's defeat?

 

When Trump wins I'm still not holding hands

 

Oh, so if I say my group insult is a "joke" I can get by with it? Good to know!

 

How do you verify undocumented illegals are the parents and not human traffickers? Just give them to any who claim them?

 

I fear that if I start objectively explaining the many ways in which Trump followers follow the example of their leader I might get banned from the forum for attacking my opponents.

Republican leaders have taken it, for the most part, the same way they have governed for the last four years: placing loyalty to partisan interests before loyalty to the country. They will go down in history pretty much the same way as the pro-slavery advocates at the time of Lincoln: as the bad guys in the movie.

 

Because children don't cry calling human traffickers by screaming "Daaaaad!"

What an absurd statement you just made. The desperation of Trump supporters to find some way to justify torture is evident.

 

Oh the humanity!
So we just give them to any who claim them if they cry "pappi" ? Why dont you seem to care if human traffickers take the wrong kids?