The Red Wave of Conservative Women Elected to Congress

You asked me for an example and I gave you one: Georgia.

The relevance of your personal experience is what?

Bottom line here: Trump is trying to throw the election into the House and the courts aren't going to let him do it. On December 14, the Electoral College is going to elect Joe Biden. Game, set, match.

 

No. I'm not kidding you, You keep switching position. In one post you say you have zero sympathy and in the next, say you support restoration of all rights.
I simply can't keep up.
However if you feel I am Trolling you then I will stop responding to you and this will solve the issue.

 

I have no sympathy for criminals. Period. But I also believe in proportionality. I would not support life in prison, for example, for a burglary for a commercial building after business hours. The law of restoration is necessary to give them some incentive to participate in a democracy when they serve their time. At some point they need to get out and go back to work. But it's not because I have any sympathy.

 

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

I'm not surprised you are unable to understand the difference between voter suppression and a phony claim of voter suppression. "Oooh, I have to have an ID to vote?!?!?! They don't believe I am when I say I am and that I haven't already voted?!?!?! This is voter suppression ... and fascism ... and ... and RACISM !!!!"

So sad.

 

Do you require more to start your education?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/07/poll-prri-voter-suppression/565355/

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/historic-voter-turnout-trump-voter-suppression.html

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/frontburner/what-voter-suppression-looks-like-in-the-u-s-election-1.5781220

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/10/29/2020-election-voter-suppression-looks-like-guns-lies-and-fires/6044702002/

https://www.votingrightsalliance.org/forms-of-voter-suppression

https://time.com/5902729/black-voter-suppression-2020/

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-10-24/voter-suppression-clouds-2020-vote

 

LOL, the NY Mag, the Atlantic??? Why don't you cite the MSNBC and the Huffington Post? Jesus.

Obviously the liberal media (and you) have naively bought into every hysterical claim of voter suppression. Some are valid, some are not, as it's an imperfect world, but do try to remember that you are citing liberal commercial journalistic sources with newspapers and magazines to sell.

And it hasn't gone unnoticed that your only response to Bluesguy, who asked you above: Where it this election was voting suppressed and by whom. What counties had long lines long enough to suppress votes and who runs those county elections?
was this:

The relevance of your personal experience is what?

In other words, you've got nothing. Or at least, you've shown nothing so far. And you also have yet to explain how, with all this voter suppression going on, Biden and HRC, like Obama, won the popular vote.

 

Do you have a snappy Breitbart cite?

You haven't read any of the sources, have you?

As I said, I'm not surprised you would think voter suppression is okay.

Stealing another person's vote is despicable, IMO.

 

Thank you for your clarification, I tend to agree, though there is some evidence that lack of opportunity and criminal activity are heavily linked. So I am sympathetic in a way.

 

You can call your cat a dog 1000 times, and it still won't bark. Similarly, what you are calling suppression isn't suppression. Saying it over and over is not persuasive in terms of it being a significant problem.

I would say that Democrats winning the popular vote in maybe the last 4 presidential elections is evidence that you there is no more voter suppression than there is fraud.

Maybe you guys are suppressing the Republican vote.

 

Not surprised you make things up. Where did long lines suppress voters this cycle? You've yet to post anything to back your claim there was massive voter suppression.

 

Names a state is not providing clear examples. Where in Georgia did this occur? Who was in charge of the polling places where it occurred. And yes I waited in a long line and was not suppressed. Again you are blown smoke. We have sworn affidavits to polling place irregularities in counting the vote. You have nothing. And those affidavits need to be fully investigated.

 

If there are examples of specific voter suppression in this election cycle in any of your cites then copy and paste and we can discuss. You can't that burden on the other person to figure out what you are claiming and copy and paste it here for you.
You have been blowing smoke in this entire discussion and continue to do so.

 

Well, you can put in your two cents on how to define voter suppression, but you'll be joining a discussion that started long before either of us was born. Or our parents or grandparents were born.

Consider the secret ballot...

https://www.voanews.com/archive/history-secret-ballot-revealed

Voter suppression is nothing new. If you think it's wrong, we might discuss ways of eliminating it.

Maybe not, too.

 

You don't seem interested in the truth about voter suppression.

 

He asked you to paste the relevant portion of your sources and you have declined to do so. Noted.

 

Obviously, you're uninterested in looking at voter suppression.

 

People write books about voter suppression. I'm not interested in educating you about the subject.

As for the affidavits ... present them to the courts. December 14 is your drop dead date, so don't delay.

 

I'm not going to explain voter suppression to you or @Bluesguy. "Gerrymandering" was coined in 1812.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/where-did-term-gerrymander-come-180964118/

This country has been arguing about voting throughout its history.

 

The trouble with voter suppression is that as long as their is any way a group of voters can make a vote, the other side can claim they are not suppressed.
Of course we all know that's not how it works, that moving polling stations away does effect who votes, but those on the gaining side of the equation are never going to admit this.
What disturbs me is the number of people willing to ignore or applaud the erosion of democracy in order to get their own way. They never seem aware that if they tolerate this then their children will be next.

Its even worse in the UK at the moment.

 

Still no answer.

 

To be clear, your failure is in gearing any of those links, the particular content of which you for some reason will not paste, to the 2020 election, which Biden (like Obama and HRC) won by a huge margin, notwithstanding the long lines (occasional, and endurable) and voter ID requirements (necessary).

I think you won't because you can't. Why you are doing is as bad as, and of a piece with, Trump claiming Biden stole the election because there is proof of irregularity in several states.

My advice: Don't be like Trump!

 

You're starting to figure it out--I'm unwilling to play monkey to your organ grinding.

Free advice: study American history.

 

Okay.

Talking to yourself?

 

We are talking about a specific election: this one. You have yet to post anything showing significant or in fact ANY vote suppression other than citing long lines in some places.

 

You don't have to be a monkey. All you have to do is cite something persuasive to the effect that votes were suppressed, to a meaningful extent, in this year's election. Is this hard (yes, actually, it is.) Articles on the general existence of a strained example of voter suppression, like "long lines" and voter ID requirements, don't cut it. Especially if you win by a significant margin.