Biden kills 70,000 jobs in his first day.

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  1. Starcastle

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    So an American who voted for Trump is worse than traitors who defend our biggest rivals and enemies while hating Americans?

    I guess al Qaeda flying into buildings is "bovine feces" also right?
     
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    Cannot emphasize this enough. Climate change is an anti American white guilt concept. It does destroy jobs and it's goal is to destroy an entire industry.

    We are supposed to feel responsible for this and we are primarily supposed to do something about it. The developing world can just do what they want. Of course doing so means CC would be unchecked. They do not care.

    We are not like Europe or Japan counties with dense populations and small fossil resources. We have lots of coal, NG and oil. We are an energy independent country because of fossil fuels. The cost of those fuels are inexpensive which is good for everybody who is not wealthy.

    Attacking fossil fuels in America is anti growth and anti job and the idea that we with 28T in debt can just replace those jobs through government largesse is bs.
     
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    Here is a NEWSFLASH just for you.

    YOUR biggest *LOSER* is a TRAITOR who INCITED an INSURRECTION against the government of We the People.

    That makes him Public Enemy #1.

    Facts matter!
     
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    those aren't facts, they are hyperbolic opinion. Now THAT is a fact.
     
  6. LangleyMan

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    So, because the CCP are thugs, you figure anything you want to make up about them should go unchallenged?
     
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    Those unamerican Domestic Terrorist SUPPORTERS of YOUR biggest *LOSER* are saying that he DID incite them to commit an INSURRECTION so is that their "hyperbolic opinion" too?

    Sad that you CANNOT meaningfully DEFEND the indefensible CRIMES against We the People committed by YOUR biggest *LOSER*.

    Then again it is an IMPOSSIBLE task I am not in the least surprised that your response fits into the category of Kneejerk Denialism.

    :roflol:
     
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    He doesn't need defending from vitriolic BS left wing talking points. I'm satisfied with the job he did and I hope we can say the same when the Biden team is finished with their run.
     
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    So YOU support YOUR biggest *LOSERS* CRIMINAL incitement to an INSURRECTION against the duly elected government of We the People? :eek:

    Sad!
     
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    That ain't what happened.
     
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    Factual documented REALITY says that it DID which is why YOUR biggest *LOSER* is facing a SECOND impeachment TRIAL in the Senate which will probably be followed by a CRIMINAL indictment shortly thereafter.
     
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    The original Canada-United States Free Trade Agreement (CUSFTA) was a good deal for this country in most thinking, right across the political spectrum. Canadian salaries are on a par with those here, so there was no job drain, and we got preferred access to the second largest supply of raw materials in the world (after Russia).
     
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    Has it crossed your mind concern about climate change, around the world, is an effort to protect the planet?
    The argument most typically advanced by poorer countries is that they use far less carbon source energy than we do.


    Do you think they have a point? If the rest of the world burned fossil fuels at the rate we do, the world would be turned into a climate cinder.
    Right now, yes. But what about the future?
    A rather absurd characterization of concerns about burning fossil fuels.
     
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    California commies.
     
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    You do know there are companies that can employ accountants and work the tax laws to pay next to zero. Some even pay zero.
    So, the tax claim is largely mute.

    They may have lower tax rates, but they also don't have the infrastructure we do nor the social safety programs we do for our lower poor class of citizens.

    Where are you getting the claim of super high tax rates create jobs? Sounds like a RW talking point to me. Mister I don't follow republicans.

    What are unnecessary programs and extra spending. Details. For someone thinks they are necessary.
     
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    They, them. You know. Over there. Under that rock.
     
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    If a business needs illegals to work for them so bad they're willing to take a felony rap and do a year in prison to do so, maybe it deserves to die. Remove any possibility of an illegal finding work in the US and the problem fixes itself. But as you pointed out, evil rich businesses want those employees, but I suspect not bad enough to take that hefty of a penalty. Of course, Biden and his merry band of leftists running the place won't enact that, because it seems they have more sympathy for illegals than they do for bonafide US Citizens and legal immigrants, but it is what SHOULD be done, nonetheless.
     
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    Companies (or businesses, or corporations, or whatever word you wish to use) do not pay ANY taxes, accountants or not. They just collect them. From us. Just as we pay for their offices, their salaries, their dividends, their corporate jets, and even the staples they use to bind documents together for the accountants (whose fees we pay, too), we also pay their taxes. Every penny of them. The idea that they even CAN pay taxes is a grand illusion that has been hoisted on the people of the United States, who actually believe it! But it's not true.

    Enact user fees that fairly distribute the cost of infrastructure to the users of that infrastructure and you'll have no problem paying for it. Fairly.

    As for the social safety programs, except those that help people who are physically or mentally UNABLE to help themselves, they can go bye-bye. 99% of those "lower poor class of citizens" are in the situation in because they themselves made bad choices. They dropped out of school, or are too lazy to even find a job. Hell, maybe they can't even speak English, or speak it properly (to wit, the word is "moot", not "mute", above). Maybe they got their faces and necks tatted up, or had 7 felonies by the time they were 23. Or maybe instead of felonies, maybe they had 7 kids by the time they were 23.

    Whatever, they did it to themselves.
     
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    First, that's irrelevant. Second, it's a natural consequence to having a populace that is consistently growing. I bet you'd find every single President (maybe with a small handful of exceptions) won the election by "the most votes ever" since we elected our 2nd one. More population equals more voters (regardless of for whom they voted) equals the winner almost certainly having the most votes ever.

    Simple math. And unimportant, irrelevant math at that.
     
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    Republicans don't claim super high tax rates create jobs(or any benefits for that matter), that's a LW talking point. In fact, that's a predominately left wing talking point. Why are you making me have to clarify conservative political theory? I said keeping rates at a healthy medium of the international tax rate(you know, since we're all international now) will help promote/decrease companies from moving overseas if there isn't a difference in tax rates.

    Or we can be like Sarosky's France, tax businesses to the moon and have an economic recession. And for every company that effectively pays zero in taxes, there are many more that do. I've never understood why Liberals always say 'tax more', instead of looking at the elephant in the room(the government) and be like "No, why don't you use the money that you've got better"

    Why do you always give your leaders, a PASS. You never hold them to any sort of accountability, and as a result Liberals can say "vote for us, x" and the next time x never comes they can say "do it again", and it's some Stockholm syndrome at this point.
     
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    Talk about Irrelevant.
     
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    That’s hilarious . The idea that over punishing people with a felony for hiring illegals, when being an illegal itself, is just a misdemeanor, is really poor. A US citizen gets jail time and a felony record for a non violent offense involving a misdemeanor by an accomplice, makes no sense. . Glad that suggestion didn’t come from a lawyer or law maker.....
     
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    Companies still need to compete with other companies.
    And taxes are just another business expense.
     
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    I don't hear any claiming high tax rates create jobs. But I don't follow left or right wing talking points. I view them as pointless. Just made to feed the sheeple of the party.
    What taxes can do is pay the bills the congress critters spend. The deficit has gone up 4 yrs running. Lowering taxes didn't help pay for all that spending.

    Companies are moving jobs overseas. We were at full employment before covid. If jobs were leaving the country, we'd not have so many employed.

    I don't know who my leaders are? I don't give any leaders a pass, especially those who reside in DC. I don't like most of them. I don't like either party. Why would you even think I give any a pass?
     
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    They may collect them from foreigners, too, and that's a potential revenue source for government. Norway (5.3m people) has a $1t sovereign wealth fund it got from taxing oil exports.
    Works for much infrastructure, but not for some of it. Who pays for a levee? An earthquake early warning system? National defense facilities?
    What should we do with or about many millions of workers who will be replaced by AI, quantum computing, high-speed wireless?
    Whatever, they did it to themselves.[/QUOTE]
    So, you're going to help them straighten out--get an education, for example--or you're going to continue the problems we have today?
     

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