another "what if??" question to the trumpers

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  1. Esdraelon

    Esdraelon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then he wouldn't have incited anyone to action. I loathe the POS but the law is clear and at least for a little while longer, we are a nation of laws. The irony of your hypothetical is that in many ways he was the most lawless president in our history.
     
  2. gringo

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    wow ..what lunacy

    above is a great example of how the Q anon people can spin anything trump

    I asked a "what if" question of trumpers

    and the reply is not an answer , it is another question

    so unlike you I will answer your question

    I did not feel another thread condemning BLM was needed, so I did not create one...ok??

    there have been several about the matter of BLM

    this thread was about the upcoming trial of the leader of the GOP

    and BTW, what I agree with or disagree with is not important

    I believe any person breaking laws should face justice..PERIOD!!
     
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    Just so I get this right, Obama called for a "peaceful protest" like Trump did?
     
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    gringo Well-Known Member Donor

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    your signature line is very revealing ..

    when did Obama call for protests against trump??

    Obama campaigned for Biden..but after trump was declared a loser ,Obama has went back to his mansion
     
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    I am trying to follow along with the OP's scenario. For it to be correct, Obama would have had to call for "peaceful protests" exactly like Trump did before the riot.

    My signature is from the first month of Trump's presidency with ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, and MSNBC all went 90%+ negative against Trump, before anything really happened. It was quite a display of propaganda and so many Leftists just fell right in line.
     
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  6. gringo

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    trump did not call for "peaceful protests"

    trump held a rally called "stop the steal" at the exact time Biden was being confirmed

    below is the transcript of trumps rally speech on january 6th 2021

    please show me the word "peaceful" anywhere in the text

    Donald Trump Speech "Save America" Rally Transcript January 6 - Rev
     
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    Plenty of people care — they still quote Obama. I must have missed where any Democrat called for a march on the capitol with language like that, cam you source it for me?
     
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    You are ill informed. It happens, you are a Leftist. I cannot believe you haven't watched the actual video of his speech.

    He absolutely called for "peaceful protests".

    Here is the video:

    Oh wait, YouTube took it down for no reason... so try this one:

    Oooops! They took that one down too! They called it harassing and bullying, but it was just Trump's speech. So YouTube lied... that's alright... try this one:

    Crap... they got that one too. YouTube really doesn't want people to know that Trump called for Peaceful Protests... it's Orwellian. But that's alright a new one was put up here... oh crap... the got that one too.

    Even Twitter pulled it down.

    https://www.cnsnews.com/index.php/b...ling-peace-telling-capitol-protesters-go-home

    Ahhhh... here is the only version up. They will delete it.



    You live in an Orwellian period where "your side" is deleting the truth and you are falling for their propaganda.
     
  9. gringo

    gringo Well-Known Member Donor

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    at what time did trump say peaceful protest??

    I watched trumps speech on television January 6th .. help me out when does he say go peacefully??
     
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    Watch the last video recently put up that is not yet deleted. You must have missed it that day, because it's the same speech you watched. It's the final video on my post you quoted. The rest have ALL been deleted. Does that not bother you that he said it, you don't know it, YouTube is deleting it, and this Orwellian act is allowed to happen?



    It will be deleted soon, just like the rest. They don't want you Leftists to know the truth and accept your propaganda blindly.
     
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    too little to late .. the prior hour of his speech was filled with hate and lies .. when trump uttered those words the mob were already on the way to the capitol ..the only people that heard him say that were the people too fat or lazy to walk that far
     
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    lol.... you lose. You said it didn't happen. I proved it did... and now look at you... moving the goal posts. How does it feel to be so dishonest?
     
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    gringo Well-Known Member Donor

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    The video you posted was fake news

    how does it feel to post doctored videos??
     
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    WTF? That is not a doctored video. You seriously don't believe your own eyes. You realize that YouTube and Twitter are taking down his speech as often as they find it. This is bizarre. You were given video proof and you refuse to believe your own eyes and ears. This Orwellian stuff works.

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    Does anyone wonder why ever video of Trump's full speech is taken down? EVERY SINGLE ONE. You live in an Orwellian time.

    People, you are either a free thinker, or you fall for this crap and are good with being a serf under Fascist Authoritarian control.
     
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    Just for everyone else, because the above member will not believe anything at odds with what Big Tech and the MSM tell him to be true.... even if his own eyes tell him different.

    I am going to put this up here, because YouTube is deleting ALL of the Full Speech videos and all of the excerpts where Trump is calling for the crowd to be "peaceful and patriotic" on January 6, 2021 before the Capitol riot.

    Here is a link to the full video. If you want to see the part that Big Tech and the MSM don't want you to see it's at 16:22 of the January 6, 2021 Speech.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/other/watch-trump-s-full-speech-on-the-national-mall/vi-BB1cFieq

    It's not easy to find the full speech anywhere. Go ahead Google it and hit those links. It's shocking how many are deleted with the video removed.

    Here is the full transcript where you can search it for "peaceful" and read it with your own eyes. It's crazy how well these Orwellian tactics by the MSM and Big Tech work on some people.

    Full Transcript Link: https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...trumps-speech-at-rally-before-us-capitol-riot

    YouTube is an abomination. They also take it down on Twitter whenever someone puts it up. When such an orchestrated effort is in place to deny "We the People" from information, we should all be concerned, but far too many Leftists are 100% good with the censorship going on.
     
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    But he didn’t do that did he?

    in fact no previous president has done what Trump did.

    But to answer you question it would not have mattered if it had been Lincoln himself wrong is wrong
     
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    Gee I just googled “trump full speech January 6th” and got a complete transcript

    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-save-america-rally-transcript-january-6

    https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...trumps-speech-at-rally-before-us-capitol-riot

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/1/11/full-transcript-donald-trump-january-6-incendiary-speech

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-january-transcript-impeachment-b1786924.html
    And the full speech
    https://www.ntd.com/trumps-full-speech-at-jan-6-save-america-rally_550309.html

    What are you hoping for? That somewhere there will be a version where he says “Biden won fairly so go home and wait out the next four years?”
     
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    Sorry did you just post

    Have you not been reading the posts of your fellow right wingers - or do you consider those who have been painting yellow black NOT to be republican?
     
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    Lol...no, in this scenario, obuma and his family and henchmen spent two months after losing the election inciting his cult to reject the results and rig things to keep himself in power.
    It’s precious that you want to ignore this, but we know better.
     
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    Funny how they always seem to leave that part out.
     
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    Your what if is a futile question. It can be answered in any way a person feels like. Honestly...or dishonestly. The only way to find out the truth is if it actually happened. I'm sure you know this. As such why even pose such a question?

    However I will answer the question. I'll tell the truth. Whether you believe me or not is up to you.

    All of the words that Dems have said were the cause of the riot has been used before by politicians and protest leaders. Even MLK used words like "fight" in his speeches. But he also always advocated for doing it in peaceful ways. He did not want violence.

    And there is no reason to think Trump wanted an insurrection beyond partisan hatred. He did after all call for them to peacefully make thier voices heard in a patriotic way.

    Additionally if an insurrection actually did occur...then why hasn't any of the people that have been arrested for thier part in the riot been charged with insurrection?

    Using this logic, I wouldn't treat Obama any differently than I am treating it under Trump as.

    But you won't know for sure that I'm telling the truth. Only thing I can offer up as evidence that I am is that I have defended Obama in the past. And I certainly was no birther because I actually took the time to study the laws that were in effect at the time which proved he was a US citizen. And one didn't need a BC to prove such. Just the law.
     
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    These "Trump, Trump, Orange Devil" threads from the Libs have gone from ludacris to flat out BORING! That little pony was rode hard and put away wet JANUARY 20TH. Lest you all forget, TRUMP AIN'T PRESIDENT NO MO! Try repeating that a few times to yourselves, I know it'll be hard the first few try's but it'll get easier, and who knows, it might actually SINK IN!!! :fingerscrossed:
     
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    Trump never said the words you quoted. it is a flat out lie.
     
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    I wonder how many political efforts- campaigns, efforts to pass or reject a bill or perceived injustice, have been described as needing to "Fight like hell" without meaning physical altercations?
    Hundreds, perhaps thousands- and at on time or another, every politician has used those or the equivalent words. The libs CHOOSE to claim that this is different- because it suits their purpose, and anything that does can be distorted under the official double-standard that is the policy of those who have no integrity or moral compass.

    Seems I remember for example Maxine Waters telling people to search out Trump people everywhere, confront them and tell them they aren't welcome anywhere.
    She has also said, "I threaten trump supporters all the time".

    The left never sees anything wrong with that, and any intelligent man knows that speaks clearly to the lack of any redeeming character in the person.
     
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