America confronts Trump's destructive legacy

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  1. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you are repeating what is in the thread, then you should agree with it or say otherwise.
     
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    I am not completely clear on forum rules and do not want to disrespect the OP of this thread. I will be glad to answer questions like that in the thread link provided below.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...les-to-limit-ice-arrests-deportations.584845/
     
  3. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is not a matter of rules. Just common sense. If you are going to quote someone, then you should have at least a basic understanding of what you are quoting.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Memes are great. Why think for ones self when it has already been done for you. Look, he demolished those buildings with golf clubs!
     
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    I don't remember quoting anybody.
     
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    That isnt a quote.
     
  8. Chrizton

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    Biden's executive order can be undone as readily as Trump's as readily as Obama's so nothing is being "repaired". The parties are just playing the same stupid partisan games over and over and over again.
     
  9. stone6

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    Congress could correct that...and a conservative SCOTUS would back them up.
     
  10. Bullseye

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    LOL, the Dems and their lackeys in the media, the arts, the federal govrernment, and Silicon Valley through disruption, lies, and propaganda since Trump rode down the escalator and it’s HIS fault?
    Sorry, no:
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    They could but the same partisan stupid games includes not agreeing to anything the other side agrees with.
     
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    I don't know about that. They seem to do ok when it comes to their own self-interests...slary increases, health care plans, etc. This would be an institutional return (IMO) to restore the founders original plan for Legislative supremacy over that of the Executive and Judiciary branches.
     
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    Lol...what would you expect some right wing neo nazi to say about democracy and diversity?
    Face it, the rabid right has taken a big hit worldwide with the destruction of the trump sewer in the US. People everywhere are tired of violent right wing despots trying to cling to power any way they can.
     
  14. Chrizton

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    The Congress delegates too much authority to the executive branch through the regulatory process, War Powers Act, Patriot Act, etc. They are too lazy to fill in the details of legislation they pass themselves.
     
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    Perhaps...personally, I think it's because of the corrupting role of "money in politics." They are too busy trying to raise money to support the huge infrastructure that supports the political system and for their own next election. Election reform begins with reducing the money in the system. I would totally do away with the necessity to raise money...just reduce it considerably. And, I'd eliminate gerrymandering, to make the congressional districts more competitive. Non-competitive districts, IMO, make for a top down driven party system.
     
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    If your comment was in any way related to Germany (as my post was), all I can say is that if you think Germany is some kind of nationwide 'hot-bed' for "neo nazi" sentiment, go over there and just raise your right arm with the hand and fingers extended. Just do that and hold your arm up like that for about thirty seconds and see what happens to YOU! If a hyperliberal, radical German "Green" Party member sees you, you'll probably be knocked down and left bloody in the street. But, if you're lucky and a German cop sees you first, you'll only be arrested. Go ahead -- I dare you!

    Hint: the REAL "Nazis" in Germany today are the "Gut Menschen" (the so-called "good people") of the radical LEFT, not the Right.... Don't take my word for it -- ask a German!
     
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    They only effective way to do that would be to triple the number of members of the house. Smaller districts require less money to campaign in and it would too expensive to buy influence with the majority of members as well.
     
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    Interesting proposal. I'll have to think about it. Increasing the number of districts without other changes (such as reducing the money in the system, gerrymandering, etc.) might only worsen the problem, although I see the advantages that you mentioned as well.
     
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    You'll remember, they had a rather bad experience with the dictatorship of National Socialism.
     
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    My district is over 10K sq. miles with two cities at either end and a whole lot of rural land in between them. Tripling the number of members would give two cities and a whole lot of farmers each a different representative instead of constantly fighting to control which end of the district gets to control the 1 seat and which end gets left out this time.
     
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    How is the state legislature organized?
     
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    But, of course, those would have been worse with COVID as we know from Trump's time in office.
     
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    The same way every other one is I guess. Not that much different than DC. The dems currently have a razor thin majority in the state senate. My district has been my district through GOP control and DNC control forever though. The edges squish around as other districts change on the margins but this same two city anchoring problem as been there for seemingly ever. The problem is that one of them--mine--is a mostly minority, poorer city and the other one is a mostly white rich city. While they are both left-leaning, their interests are often in direct competition.
     
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    I can't disagree with you. Funny how every manifestation of every political movement whose last name is "Socialism" ends up being a colossal failure....

    Truth? Germany, with all its many faults is still the best practitioner of what we think of as "neo-socialism" in the world today. It runs its economy FAR more responsibly and intelligently than any other country in the EU, but its 'social' politics are "Loonie Tunes" STOOPID, and getting worse all the time! Ask any German who actually WORKS and PAYS the comparatively very large German tax burden....
     
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    The major problem with just increasing the number of House districts is that individual representative political power declines with the numbers and the need for centralization increases, which would give the party hierarchies more power, not less.
     

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