World’s ‘solar and wind capital’ freezing due to snow ‘blanketing millions’ of solar panels

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    That wasn't the claim. If you refuse to read, don't pretend to respond.

    Energy prices related to fossil fuels rise during these times as well. And petroleum gets a ton of subsidies. Would it really kill you to return to the topic?

    Are you expecting some kind of check in the mail in order to return to the topic?

    Answered in my last post . . . and basically every other post I've written on the subject. Would it kill you to read?

    And nothing will change he fact that this is a fake argument, already addressed, that you refuse to actually come to terms with. But keep copy/pasting your talking points and refusing to actually read. It explains the fake "arguments."
     
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    Yeah, in fair weather sometimes even 50% from wind.
    It seems to me your chart makes it clear.
    Gas generation crapped out. Even Baseline coal broke and the nukes lost capacity.
    The unplanned loss from wind was a nit.
     
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    Hmm.. Not even. 23% according to ERCOT. Try reading once in a while. I know it hurts...but.... Gas is the only thing that helped. Why? Because wind couldn't. It is a fixed asset. Meaning that regardless of how hard the wind blows, the amount of output is always the same. Try science, don't deny it.
     
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    Yes, I told you something like that was likely to happen.

    It is the technology. And Texas’ generally lax attitude toward regulation (not so in your area!!!).

    I can’t give you much reassurance either. I’m sure Austin and environments have broken water mains all over the place, and as you said, they don’t have the pump capacity to recharge the standpipes right away (not that it matters, it would waste away through hundreds of broken water lines).

    Your DPW guys are playing wack a mole right now!
     
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    Have a look at Feb. 8th. Sure looks like 50% to me. Must have been a nice windy day.
    Yep, wind can only lower the cost of energy, it can't plug holes from bad planning.
     
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    Once again, you are wrong: https://www.texastribune.org/2021/02/16/texas-wind-turbines-frozen/

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/02/texas-power-grid-crumples-under-the-cold/

    Try facts. Stop denying them.
     
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    They never did "roll" the blackouts here in Austin after most lost power at 2am Monday morning. What was promised as an "up to 45 minutes" without power ended up being "People who have electricity will have it for the duration and people who are out will be out for the duration." People got really ticked about the "rolling blackout" messaging, interspersed with the truth that there was no "roll".

    They claimed that people who had power were on a circuit with a hospital or other necessary service which could not be turned off. That didn't make any sense because my power was out along with about 20,000 people last Thursday and all day Friday before things got really really bad on Monday and through this week. I've had consistent power through this week.

    Meanwhile all the major downtown areas in Texas with empty buildings were lit up like Christmas trees every night until people started complaining.

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    I saw some news on Mexico's power loss. Texas was exporting natural gas to power a lot of Mexico's needs. Mexico blamed Texas for their loss of power, but economists said that when the prices spiked hundreds of percentage points, the Mexico government balked and refused to purchase gas at higher prices...so left a lot of their people cold and in the dark.

    https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/n...ther-mexico-officials-blame-texas/6759248002/

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    Everyone "in charge" is just pointing fingers at each other trying not to be the "responsible party".
     
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    Man made climate change. Any doofus knows we are talking about man made climate change.
     
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    Don't forget that falling demand for coal is driving the price down, worse for oil. That is a result of green energy production.
     
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    My city is responsible for things being worse in Austin than in other large cities. They keep lying to the public about what's going on.

    On the 16th (Tuesday), they said no problem with water.




    They lied. Today they posted this chart which indicates that the system was starting to "leak" on Monday the 15th.

    All the water drained out of the reservoirs overnight Tuesday. Seems like someone should have been watching and put a plug in the "bathtubs" before we lost ALL the water reserves.

    Austin Utilities is just awful and they have a monopoly so customers can't leave. In 2018, we didn't have water for about 5 days because "It rained" here. The water filters got clogged with silt was the "explanation".

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    When did man start changing the climate and what proof is there that man is driving that change and could somehow reverse it? How is climate different from any other time in the history of the planet? I bet those in Texas would appreciate warmer winters right now. Imagine if we had cooled the planet a few degrees over the last 5 years.
     
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    What am I doing?
     
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    Junk Grade Models: Even Short-Term Climate And Weather Modelers Get It All Wrong
    By P Gosselin on 19. February 2021

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    Many climate policies are based on scenarios generated by models. Depending on what these models churn out, actions and costly regulations get enacted to mitigate the worst consequences. So we hope that the modelers get it right. Unfortunately they are still shooting in the dark. Even short term models are failing miserably.

    TWC forecast a basket case

    It turns out most models are junk grade when it comes to forecast quality. For example, The Weather Channel here not long ago issued it’s winter outlook up through March:

    [​IMG]

    The area of the US now being hit by one of the most vicious cold waves in the last 100 years was indeed forecast to be “way above normal” or “much above normal”. So far the exact opposite has happened. They never saw it coming. . . .
     
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    Actually, it was the other way around.

    Greg Abbot was on Fox Noise with the windmill talking point immediately after going on local news and telling everyone the truth, that it was frozen gas mains and the collapse of the grid that was the actual culprit.

    Perhaps you can explain where the backup is for your precious fossil fuels?

    Since it was the unreliability of the gas wells and pipelines that drove the crisis.

    Some windmills didn’t freeze.

    And the ones that people specified for the climate don’t.

    This rant of yours was discredited days ago. Yet, here you are,still plugging it.
     
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    Wind power failed at a greater rate. It was only saved from being the primary failure because installed capacity was not as large as gas.
     
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    Climate change can be caused by many things... natural and human.

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    Can I just say this sounds like the script for a comedy show.
    I'm sorry.
     
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    Any doofus knows we are talking about man made climate change.
     
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    We could enter another "little ice age" with or without humanity lowering it's carbon emissions. But wouldn't it be ironic if the radical greenies help usher it in !

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    It absolutely does. It will be much funnier if I ever have running water again. LOL
     
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    But not many man-made climate change doofuses realize they don't know what they're talking about when they talk about it.
     
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    What are you saying... that nature plays no role in climate change ??

    If you believe that, you're the doofus.

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    Apart from we know the causes of ice ages and when they are coming.
     
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    The idea of a bloke walking up to the reservoir in the morning, seeing all the mud and the plug and chain laying laying there, and saying
    "Oh s**t"
     
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    Will the big freeze bring Texas back down to earth:
     

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