World’s ‘solar and wind capital’ freezing due to snow ‘blanketing millions’ of solar panels

"Green" energy should be a fair-weather supplement, not a replacement for stable, reliable power. Good article.

 

Well I'm a steam pipe. Perhaps Mr physicist could provide a Link?

 

From the Federalist society, well known for its green credentials and lack of links with oil and gas producers.

 

The big snow storm happened when? Overnight on the 14th. And when did the wind turbines go off line? The 14th. I suppose it's too much to ask folks like you to actually know stuff like how to read a graph...

 

Well at least we know where all those unemployed pipeline workers can get a job.
They can fix smaller pipes.

 

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Now, intresting that this then correlates exactly to the previous graph...

 

Looks like the sharp drop off in wind happened sometime February 9th. I'd be curious to know when the freezed hit west Texas where most of the wind farms are as the front descended north to south.

I had power go out in Austin on Thurs the 11th from late morning to mid-afternoon, then went completely dark from 6pm Thursday evening to the middle of the overnight Friday night the 12th, about 34 hours total. I was lucky to be in the "first group". Most of the rest of the city went black and stayed black overnight Sunday-Monday night at 2am, and some people today still have no power....and now no running water since Wednesday.

Anyway, that graph indicates that wind stopped contributing much to the grid sometime between the 8th and 9th. I'm sure west Texas froze ahead of Austin.

Good chart. Thanks Jack.

 

Notice that part of the graph shaded green, notice it is not zero over the whole time period? Odd that, given that you have stated that all wind turbines ground to a halt yet still provided some energy! Must be by magic. Now if you only knew how to read a graph

 

You realize that there are more wind farms than those in central/west tx right? The souther coast on the gulf is similarly wind turbine rich. You will notice, however, that the ability of the farms to produce hasn't remotely indicated that they were even potentially producing 10% of the totals. So what is your excuse? Math is racist??

 

Um, one of the reasons the flat earth crowd gets renewables and battery technology wrong, is that most people don’t seem to understand the basic economics of the electric power industry.

The only way to store energy until recently was to leave it in the coal pile, or leave the gas in the ground (indeed gas stored underground is traded on futures market the same way Brent crude is).

Because electricity is consumed the instant it is created, an electric power system must have sufficient generating and transmission capacity to operate at 100% capacity at any given moment.

Contrast that with a public water system, where the transmission lines have to be sized on the capacity of every toilet flushing and every tap open at any given moment.

But water can be (and is commonly) stored. Standpipes use gravity to maintain the pressure in the system and provide peak capacity,while pumps feed the tanks at a steady and constant rate the keep the system in balance.

This is what distributed (battery) storage will do to electric power.

Moreover, solar and wind are far cheaper and give significantly faster ROI’s than any investment in nuclear, coal, and increasingly, gas ever will. And renewble and battery costs are falling, not rising, even as demand skyrockets worldwide.

 

LOL You post a graph that shows that some wind turbines carried on working proving your assertions wrong and then you move the goal post to write about an area where they were not working.

 

Sometimes the technology doesn't matter. Humans seem to be able to screw up any system.

Tuesday, Austin water said they didn't predict water issues. Sometime between Tuesday night and Wednesday morning, they the told us that ALL the water drained or leaked out of ALL the city's reservoirs "overnight".

The communications and mixed messages has been the biggest fiasco of this entire event. Everyone is trying to cover their own a$$.

 

I hope the relatives of all you global warming deniers keep track of what you're saying in 2021 so they can look at old pictures and videos of grandpa and grandma and remember you for what you helped do to their world.

 

Ahh so let's change what you are talking about now. You said Climate CHANGE was here.

When wasn't climate change here, when hasn't it changed?

 

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François has consistently dropped the ball by opening too soon and letting businesses and individuals get away with spreading covid. Stupido Doug in Ontario keeps bragging about being in daily touch with CEOs.

 

Like I said... I hope your relatives remember you for what you're doing.

 

When I was in junior high and high school they were scaring all the kids into thinking we were all going to freeze to death in 20-30 years.

Fifty years later, and the same people are scaring children into thinking that the world is going to fry to death in 12 years in ever increasing heat.

Surely you can figure out why some folks, particularly in the older generations are climate skeptics.

The elites are not cancelling fossil fuels. They are cutting fossil fuels in western countries and investing in fossil fuels in the middle east and Asia. Perhaps more people will figure out the motivations and strategies of the elites some day and stop be so gullible about natural cyclical natural disasters.

 

No he didn't and the fact remains the wind power failed BEFORE fossile and did so dramatically while gas and coal INCREASED their outputs.

 

In its plan for an extreme winter weather event, Ercot says it expects only 7% to be provided by wind energy.

Texas weather: Are frozen wind turbines to blame for power cuts? - BBC News

 

Hmmm... gosh. They are expected to provide roughly 23% on peak. Guess that was too much to ask. And now, to their rescue.... you.. LOL



This is what the facts say. Why do you work so hard to deny them?

 

Nothing fringe about the fact that your green energy is not ready for prime time.

Check the green electric prices in Europe.

Check the ongoing Federal subsidies for green energy since the 90s.

Check the fact that backup for green energy (e.g., for the same situations we are experiencing in Texas) is never factored into the cost of green energy.

Is it a talking point that windmills froze? Do you claim they did not freeze?

The left has been very quick to get out the left's various talking points about Texas but the fact is your vaunted, bird killing windmills froze.

 

The claim was that freezing windmills and solar panels were responsible for the outage. That's a lie.

No one is claiming that no windmills froze. The point is that 1) the remaining windmills still produced more than projected 2) windmills were only supposed to account for a small percentage to begin with 3) EVERY OTHER SOURCE EXPERIENCED OUTAGES DUE TO FREEZING AS WELL. MOST of the freeze-related failures were with non-renewable sources, which is to be expected for obvious reasons. Natural gas stations froze. Coal plants froze. Hell, nuclear power plants froze. Please read my posts if you going to "respond". The fringe right talking points on this are complete bull ****.

Please do some homework on the "bird killing" as well. You'll find that windmills kill about as many birds as, well, any other structure of their size. Or feel free to point out your posts advocating that we stop building "bird killing" skyscrapers.

 

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Due to mandated rolling blackouts, my area of Dallas had no electricity for 15 hours on the coldest night of this winter storm when the temperature went down to zero here.

Texas' historic winter weather crisis went all the way down to the Rio Grande Valley [and hurt crops grown there.] Mexican towns across the border were also suffering from power outages.

Here in Texas, at one time there were over 4 million without power [many had no power for several days] and multiple millions more were without water or had "boil water" notices {IF they had power to boil water!] The food supply chain is still in trouble.

Besides the frozen wind turbines and snow covered solar panels... many power generators went off line because of frozen equipment and/or lack of fuel [gas]! All this was happening while Texas gas was being sold out of state until Texas Governor Abbot stopped it. There were also gas pipeline problems.

Fortunately, they were finally able to bring the South Texas nuclear power facility back on line... and the weather is now on a warming trend.

Btw... my brother who lives in north Arkansas told me some towns in Arkansas also get power from West Texas wind turbines.

 

If he was a pedo the church would have just moved him

 

Nothing fringe about the fact that your green energy is not ready for prime time.

Check the green electric prices in Europe.

Check the ongoing Federal subsidies for green energy since the 90s.

Check the fact that backup for green energy (e.g., for the same situations we are experiencing in Texas) is never factored into the cost of green energy.

Is it a talking point that windmills froze? Do you claim they did not freeze.

The left has been very quick to get out the left's various talking points about Texas but the fact is your vaunted, bird killing windmills froze.