Biden DOE Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Storm

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  1. cd8ed

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    Even if what you are saying is true — it doesn’t look like it from the order and subsequent orders and no major media organization is running this story including the right wing ones, just a bunch of conservative blogs that sound awfully similar — if they were given authorization to buy power at an increased cost then that means their refusal to pay extra money due to the failure of your own grid is what caused this — y’all have no issue sending these bills to your citizens but you want other companies to subsidize your own negligent companies so they can turn around and screw you?

    Fascinating
     
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    Wow. Sorry to hear that. Sounds awful!

    This storm forecast was pretty accurate. The Wednesday before the storm hit, my boss told me not to plan to work the following Monday and we'd play the rest of the week by ear because of the weather forecast and he thought the roads might be too bad for me to drive safely.

    They had about 5 solid days to plan to get more energy online ahead of the worst of the weather.
     
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    You posted a screen cap, and not the source document.

    Link?
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So impeach Biden. And impeach Trump....again. LOL

    We should impeach Trump at least once a year with Nancy and Chuck's new "standards"....just because.
     
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    The floor at $1,500 was forced by the DOE.

    Texas legislature is going to "relieve" people who voluntarily signed a variable-rate energy contract, knowing there was no cap on how high prices could go. Of course, no one expected this extreme. Anyway, a company named Griddy has/had 29,000 customers on that no-ceiling plan and I expect there are a few other independent providers offering a similar plan.

    Most electric providers, like mine in Austin, are on pre-negotiated "locked" prices, so the bills will be at the same kWh prices as last month.

    Last I saw, Gov. Abbott wants the legislature to figure out the total cost of bills of people who signed variable-rate plans and have Texas taxpayers help bail them out.
     
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    Indeed fascinating. The mental disconnect here is staggering. The Trump crowd has convinced themselves that the Dems and federal government are the devil (well, at least when not run by Trump), and, therefore, everything has to be spun in a way that it ends up being the Dems fault. Even though the actual fault lies with deregulatory and free market policies that the trump fans themselves have voted for repeatedly.

    it's the same with the Capitol riot. Weeks after it happening more than half of Trump fans have been convinced by the RW media that it was really Antifa just leading patriotic Trump supporters into doing stupid things. In other words, the Capitol riot was really the Dems fault in Trump fan's mind, because all Dems, including Biden, support Antifa.

    Isn't it easy to live in a world where you never have to take responsibility for ANYTHING, and just can blame the political opposition on every ill in your life? What happened to the party of personal responsibility?
     
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    Then if thats the case, can you explain and/or justify the cost to customers at $8,800/KWh being charged by Texas Power companies.

    I dont know why that is in there, but its obvious that its not what you think it is if the power companies themselves are charging $8,800 to the customer
     
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    Ah, losses will be socialized, as expected. Typical MO of the free marketer GOPers, after the gains have been privatized. And then they wonder why public debt keeps going up. So, please don't lecture us on socialism again in the future.
     
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    The order is in black and white and it's official, regardless whether media is covering the story.

    They just said on the radio that Griddy is the only company which plans to bill their variable-rate customers for the freeze week. Griddy has an app where customers can see how much their bill is in real time so people were watching their bills climb hundreds or thousands of dollars each day.

    No other company which might offer variable-rate billing plans to bill customers. The private company, Griddy, only had 29,000 customers and probably around 1/3rd of those didn't have electricity during the week during the blackout.

    Should be easy for the state to find out Griddy's actual "cost" of service provision before profit and reimburse their operating costs then have them wipe out customer bills for the week.
     
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    If I wanted that, I'd go back to being a Democrat, but that party left me sometime in the mid- to late-80's. Since then, the DNC has become the party of vicious authoritarians, the party of blame and shame. Hard to understand how anyone can back that hot mess of a "party".
     
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    Isn’t Texas detached from the rest of the national grid to escape regulation? How would they have used power generated from other facilities?

    And again, just because a price limit was instituted doesn’t mean they were barred from doing it. Reports are already coming out that tremendous amounts of very deadly particulates were being produced to keep up with demand (because there was no precautions taken by the private companies that only care about profits)
     
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    What’s the last thing Republicans took responsibility for and didn’t immediately blame Democrats for?
     
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    Looks like the most Griddy charged was $9/kWh which is bad enough, but no need to exaggerate just "for effect". No one got charge $8,800/kWh, and it was only one company which priced in "real time" and their customers could just log into their account and watch their bills increase.

    Doesn't matter anyway. The state has promised those 29,000 customers (or fewer) that they won't have to pay.
     
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    If I had been dumb enough to sign a variable-rate contract, I actually would not have expected the government to cover me for my own stupid choice. People on Griddy paid about half as much for electricity for the life of their account, until the storm hit...then they found out the downside.

    Anyway, I'm not supporting the reimbursement as much as writing about what is going to happen on this issue.

    On the other hand, GOPers do tend to have compassion for other in times of crisis. There's a big difference between helping out in time of dire need (in this case, a storm which happens every 100 years) and Socialism with its ongoing, never-ending redistribution of other peoples' money.
     
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    What’s the last thing Republicans Democrats took responsibility for and didn’t immediately blame Democrats Republicans for?

    LOL Sort of a circular waste of banwidth, eh?
     
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    Just announced on the radio...

    PUC (Public Utilities Commission) has imposed a moratorium on companies demanding payment for extremely high bills, like from Griddy, per orders from Gov. Abbott.

    If I had been with a provider like Griddy, seems like I'd have at least been smart enough to shut off my power and call friends or family to stay on their sofa. Hard to imagine that the price spike impacted more than 50% of Griddy's 29,000 customers.

    Anyway, I expect my own power bill to be only slightly higher than last month since I ended up having the week off work and was home for the duration, instead of at the office. Phew! The vast majority of Texans are on fixed rates like mine.
     
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    Just checking since you stated you believed Republicans were superior in this area to Democrats. Hypocrisy noted.
     
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    I believe that conservative values and policies are superior. The difference in "attitude" doesn't hurt either.
     
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    This was a very very obvious right wing deflection.

    This guy is an Acting, appointed exactly 30 days ago until Jennifer Grandholm can be confirmed.

    There is no evidence that the Texas grid was actually restrained in any way by the Federal government.
     
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    Yeah, that kind of thinking is perennial in right wing reactionary circles.

    Of course it isn’t true. And that’s pretty easy to document.

    But guys like Trump love this meme. Vote for the politician who tells you that government is broke and their aim is to disrupt it, and the failure that results is virtually assured.
     
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    wow one month in and Lyin Biden had 70K people jobless and now already has the blood of dead Texans on his hand. I don't wanna even know what its gonna be like a year from now.
     
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    I thought you were going to stop watching Fox News? Seems like you are right back, feeding at the trough.
     
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    LOL no.
     
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    It is front page news.
     
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    You refer to me as an animal because of differing views? wow, real nice!
    and my post was wrong, its 11K jobs (due to cancellation of keystone pipeline)
    also according to many NON-FOX news sources a 15 dollar minimum wage will cause 1.4 million jobs to be lost
     
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