What are your views on abortion?

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Which best describes your view on abortion

  1. A woman has the right to choose to get an abortion with no limitations.

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    47.7%
  2. Abortion should be illegal after the first trimester

    16 vote(s)
    18.6%
  3. Abortion should be illegal except to preserve the health and life of the mother.

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    27.9%
  4. Abortion should be illegal in all circumstances.

    5 vote(s)
    5.8%
  1. Ritter

    Ritter Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I agree that romantic love is the highest value, but no one has an obligation or a moral duty to commit to a long-term relationship. The standard of value for your life is You, sacrificing yourself for another man's cause is disastrous and it is perfectly fine to not be in a long-term relationship and even in such relationships, unwilling pregnancies happen.

    When abortion is needed, it is needed.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If "safe" sex is so safe, why are so many women getting abortions??
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's what this is all about, that's why I said this was an issue of values.


    I'm sure a sheik in his sex harem thinks the same way.
     
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    Ritter Well-Known Member

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    Among forum-and-youtube-dwellers it is.
     
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    Ritter Well-Known Member

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    Because sometimes birth controls fail. But, most importantly, they are getting them because they want to.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They're never going to have sex.
     
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    EXACTLY. It is elective abortions. They do not NEED them.

    No surprise the "Two Minus One" abortion is becoming increasingly popular today. People think it is the same as choosing what color car you have.
     
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    Why?

    Cough, cough.
     
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    They elect them because they need them. If you act rationally, your choices will correspond with your needs.
     
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    Ritter Well-Known Member

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    What's that?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For the sake of your future child, and so you won't need an abortion.
     
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    There's a thread on that in this forum.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are all different degrees of "need".


    A 15-year-old boy "needs" to have sex, for example.
     
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    "A future child" does not yet exist, but You do. There is no reason to limit your own existence and happiness to protect that which does not exist,
     
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    If he actually knows that it is what he actually needs, it is perfectly rational and fine to go and pursue it. Sex is not something dirty nor is it bad. There is absolutely nothing wrong with two teenagers sharing an intimate experience together.
     
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    So what if we just bumped abortion down to 8 weeks?
    Would that be enough?

    Don't you think society could still go on and function perfectly fine if there were no elective abortions after then?
    (exception for fetal abnormalities and severe and unusual health issues)
     
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    If he causes five abortions with three different girls in the span of 3 years, do you think his quest is still justified and rational?
     
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    Well, they are aborting something during an abortion.
    It has arms and legs, and a face, and is moving ... also has its own beating heart.
    And human DNA.
    Are we so sure it has no vestiges of personhood?
     
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    But a 25 year old woman doesn't ? Where do you come up with this crap???
     
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    If pro-choicers offer to create childcare options for teen moms in high school, will you agree to an end to abortion then??
    I think this is something pro-choicers would be willing to put on the table.
     
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    LOL, WHEN was "back then" when only prostitutes got abortions ??


    BTW, Prostitutes were the ones who knew how NOT to get pregnant...DUHHHHHHHHH...
     
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    Let's face it, it's not the same.

    A woman's sex drive is not the same as a man's, and she's the one choosing abortion, so she has fewer excuses.
     
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    Why?



    Why not women do as they damn please?...just like men :)


    Why does it bother you that women can do what they choose to do??? And do it without consulting YOU ...LOLOL...
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If it's so easy, are you saying women don't really need abortions??
     
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    You mean why should you make any effort to do anything to avoid your future unborn fetus from being killed?
     
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