Almost any present proposals from pro-choice politicians make an exception for rape, providing the abortion is done soon enough. Again, I think that's mostly another red herring. If you're talking about pro-life proposals that have any chance of being passed in the next 20 years.
You don't have any evidence that your idea is better - or even equal. I push for various policy decisions that address reasons for abortion that show up in studies of why women choose abortion. There is no 100% solution as there are abortions that absolutely SHOULD take place, people will be irresponsible those with means can find a way, there will be a black market as has been the case, etc., etc., regardless of draconian law. Your idea is entirely hypothetical, obviously. It's time to stop bringing down the force of government on women's most personal issues and start working on solutions to the reasons women choose to abort.
You just NEVER do a good job of reading!! Canada has that feature and does better than we do. I've never claimed that there is ONE Canadian policy that is solely responsible for their results.
And pro-life proposals make exceptions for those situations. Maybe the issue is there are abortions you think should take place, but not everybody else does.
Due to other reasons that the US will never be able to change. race/ethnicity, poverty, climate/temperature conditions government subsidized childcare might be one factor, I will concede, but only wealthy countries can afford that, and the US might not be so high up there with Canada and Europe if their economy had to deal with higher tax rates. (I mean the underlying fundamental economy, holding tax rates equal, might be weaker)
Name another law then that Canada has on abortion that is different than the situation in the US. And what was your point?
I don't agree even SLIGHTLY. These proposals always have catches that relate to legal verification that a rape took place. Only a woman knows if she was raped. And, prosecution is a choice - a choice that can have ramifications for the woman. There are similar situations for incest, as claims of incest tear apart the family of the victim. Today we FAIL to get more than 10% of incest victims to report. Making reporting a requirement means that abortion is unavailable to 90% of incest victims. Remember what happened with concern for the woman's life? Your anti-abortion zealots passed laws that absolutely discounted the life of the woman as a legal justification for abortion. That had to go to the SCOTUS to get reversed. The idea that your zealots care about women is just plain absurd. Their record shows that they see those who need abortions as being beneath salvation as humans - NOT persons to care about. They see them as prostitutes, drug addicts and reprobates - scum of society. And, I think you know that very well.
All she has to do is file a written affidavit, that will later subject her to criminal penalties for the abortion if it is later proved she was lying. Rape exceptions for later-term abortions shouldn't even be a thing. If anything, abortions due to rape should be done even earlier. (because the woman knows something unusual happened and there could be a situation)
We are VERY wealthy. Your financial excuses just do not fly. And, childcare is only one idea of MANY. I do NOT believe it is the most important, as there are higher issues seen in studies of why women abort.
How do you know that is simply not due to the lower tax rates? Every economist knows high tax rates can be a disincentive to business. Do you have another proposal that will not cost much money? Free abortions perhaps?
?? The features that address the reasons for American women to abort do NOT necessarily have to do with abortion law. The same goes in Canada. For example, Canada makes sure that every Canadian has health care. Canadian women KNOW their pregnancy, their child birth, their lives with their chidren will come with the needed health care regardless of their personal wealth. They know their child will be cared for in that way.
Okay, so you think free maternity care would reduce abortions? Are you aware that the abortion rate in Cuba is FOUR times higher than the US?
You issues concerning our wealth are a separate issue. But, NOBODY thinks we're second rate in terms of any measure of wealth. Every first world country on Earth has universal health care. And, they pay less per capita for their healthcare than we do, while achieving eauivalent outcomes. In fact, if those countries wanted even better health care they could pay much more than they do and still pay less than we do. In health care comparisons, we fail in delievery of health care to our citizens and in cost of health care per capita. We could have health care for LESS and solve this problem of women not being confident of the health care they need. Got that? We could SAVE money whild addressing this reason some consider when making an abortion decision.
If you've listened to my posts in other threads, I repeatedly say the US is not like most of the other First World countries, it is more like a First World country existing side by side with a Third World country. Just one standard of this is how clean the public spaces tend to look in the big cities.
I don't compare America to Cuba. Period. And, I'd advise you not to, either. I'd point out that Cuba is predominantly Roman Catholic. And, I'll bet you haven't even STARTED to look into that.
But you do like to compare the US to those other White English-speaking/Western European countries? Most of them are not very strong Catholics (nominal Catholics) and the Communist Cuban government actively promotes atheism. If you look at the statistics, only 5% even regularly attend mass.
I don't care what "everybody else" thinks about a woman's pregnancy. It's HER body. It's HER experience. It's HER health situation. "Everybody else" can keep their bloody hands OUT of this. This is just one of the reasons we have privacy laws that preclude public availability of health information. It is absolutely NOT anybody else's right to be involved in any way.
Cubans are white. And, your clumsy and uninformed attempt at racism is really seriously disgusting. I mention Canada, because they are more successful than are we in terms of having a lower abortion rate. They are a model for us to examine for ideas. Why would YOU mention Cuba where they are Roman Catholic and STILL very much NOT successful???
