LINK Between Governor's PARTY, & COVID, Per Capita DEATH RATES

If they are in favor of courtesy, I would suggest that woke police should only lightly knock, or slip notes under one's door, so as not to disturb at an inopportune time. Or is getting the response, "Hey, you woke me up!" the idea? In either case, that was not my intent; I meant the comment as a heads-up, assuming that if you believed yourself to be speaking about a female-- whether that be Margaret Thatcher, Angela Merkel, Nancy Pelosi, or Marjorie Taylor-Greene-- you would want to use the appropriate pronoun, as a matter of common (not hardcore, political) politeness. It's your choice, of course. But if I was in a conversation about something written by Mircea Eliade, for example, and I was calling him, "her," I would appreciate the correction, so as to not go on sounding uninformed. This situation, though, is a bit different, so I will not mention it again. I will, myself, in lieu of learning otherwise, continue using the female pronoun, so don't then consider this my attempt at having a side-argument with you, OK?

 

Oh no, I wasn't suggesting that you might be the woke police.
I appreciate the heads up. I hadn't even considered that they might not be the gender I had assumed.
Tbh, I rarely read their posts as they offer very little in opportunities to advance my knowledge of any subject.
No side argument assumed at all.
Go in peace brother.

 

They certainly will in YOUR authoritarian hell hole of a country!

 

Care to finally break the big secret, & disclose your own nationality (comrade?)?

 

I couldn't be bothered with 4 pages of this nonsense. THIS is the truth...
https://apnews.com/article/public-h...ron-desantis-889df3826d4da96447b329f524c33047
I believe this thread proves the timelessness of Lord Arthur Balfour's observation:
"There are three kinds of falsehoods, lies, damned lies, and statistics"

 

I believe he comes from the country famous for having a detention island where they send all their unwanted asylum cases to live in poor conditions while their claims are assessed.
Accusations of authoritarianism flow like water off a duck's back.

 

Australia, ey? Why would anyone be shy about admitting that as their nationality? BTW, though I appreciate not being treated as an ignoramus, I am, nevertheless, still an American, & not one who loves living on the internet; consequently, it was not known to me, or most Americans, I would confidently predict, that Australia is famous for this. For a second, in fact, I saw the word, "asylum," & thought you were referring to mental-patients, in the past (hopefully). After a moment's thought, I realized that you were referring to political asylum, & took a shot in the semi-darkness, with a search of Greece's refugee policies.

But now you have me curious, are there some uncommon tensions, amongst the Commonwealth nations?

 

Not really, usually it's just friendly rivalry over cricket or whether Marmite is better than Vegemite (it is) but certain antipodeans are just uncommonly rude.

 

I don't know if I should wade into such a powder keg-- forgive the mixed metaphor-- as the great Marmite-Vegemite debate. From my quick e-search, I was surprised to not find a British contender (my phone tells me that Marmite is from NZ); don't you Brits, or the Scots, have some equivalent made from Sheep's brains or whatnot?

Obviously, I'm just poking fun. I don't know that we really have an American equivalent, unless you count Fluff (which is pretty tasty). It doesn't have the vitamin content of those other two, but probably a lower sugar content (though Fluff still has a fair amount of sugar). Nutella (which I'm just gonna guess comes from Switzerland or the like), & its American relatives, are very tasty. But I am a more healthy eater so, while it is in an inequivalent form, nutritional yeast flakes-- which I find a delicious thickener for sauces-- is the more comparable counterpart to the contentious spreads you mentioned, since those also have yeast as their first ingredient (though, one of those, specified that it employed used brewer's yeast, which I think is a more questionable food). Maybe I should try adding nutritional yeast to Fluff. It seems a pretty unappealing combination, to me, but it might be a huge hit in some other, unnamed, Anglo nations.

Speaking generally of that, there's one other oddity that now occurs to me, on which you might be able to offer insight. Another, foreign, English accent we encounter, here in the states, is that of South Africans. But South Africa was not part of the Commonwealth, were they? That nation was colonized by the Netherlands. So why do they even speak, "English?"

 

Marmite is British, New Zealand has chosen to adopt it because they have better taste than the Australians. You are right to avoid such a powder keg of controversy.

South Africa was a British colony. Starting with Cape Province in the early 19th century. After waring with the Zulus and later the Boer it slowly all came under British rule and a Union between the 4 provinces was formed just before WWI when SA achieved Dominion status on a par with Australia, New Zealand and Canada. South African forces fought as a part of the British Empire and Commonwealth during both world wars. It gained independence from Britain in 1934 and remains a part of the Commonwealth to this day.
They play cricket and rugby like all great nations.

 

The main difference between Marmite and Vegemite is that the former is made from the yeast of proper British real ales while Vegemite is made from the dregs of Australian lager. Marmite is stronger in savoury taste while Vegemite is less savoury and slightly sweet.
At a push both Brits and Aussies will eat each other's yeast extracts if there is no other choice but to go without.

 

Hey, wait a second. Though not especially popular, we do play rugby, here in the states. But I 've never heard of an American Cricket league. Are you saying America isn't one of, "the great nations?"

(Do they even play cricket in Canada?)

Or can we just call Baseball an improved version of cricket?

 

Canada is merely British North America. They do play a little rugby to a similar if not slightly higher standard than the US. I'm not aware of them playing much cricket. They took over the British game of ice hockey and ran with it.
The US would probably still be playing cricket if not for the Civil War.
It was very popular before the war but the need to have a well prepared pitch combined with the mobile nature of the war meant that troops switched over to playing baseball instead (also a British invention) and the rest as they say is history. Baseball or rounders as we call it these days is played almost exclusively by children over here.

 

I liked your post because of it's educational nature, & interesting tidbits, even though that last comment about, "rounders," being only a children's game, over there, does seem to be a thinly-veiled insult. Also, I was unaware that baseball had been invented in England, such that when I read it, I had the sense I might be chatting with a British incarnation of Star Trek's Mr. Chekhov, for whom Russia was the origin of all good things. But I make no allegations; I can see that I will be wise to do my research first, when it comes to your claims.

Btw, I noticed you avoided weighing-in on the greatness of we North American countries, of British lineage, which have abandoned the venerable Cricket tradition.

 

I am gently ribbing you of course but everything I've said is fact.
If you look up rounders you will see it is a game remarkably similar to baseball developed in England and originally called baseball. Same with ice hockey, first depicted in a drawing back in the 17th or 18th century in England. Cricket was the dominant bat and ball game in America before the civil war.
The only truly American ballsports are basketball and lacrosse.

 

I certainly wasn't deliberately keeping it from you! This the first time you asked! British Australian, living in Australia. I'm glad that I don't live in the authoritarian hell hole which I was born in! I'd probably be in prison with my views! This is the country where someone was arrested for calling a police horse GAY!

 

Okay, so unless you know of a way in which the overwhelming of healthcare services be measured so that States can be ranked in a way in which you think is fair, then all we have to go on is the data. And the data says that New York is 28th in cases per million, but 2nd in deaths per million, while Florida is 29th in cases per million but 27th in deaths per million. AND Florida has the second oldest population in the country!

 

LOL You ignored the fact that Florida wasn't hit in any significant way until three months after New York was hit. Florida just watched New York getting hit and did nothing after receiving 3 months pre-warning of what's around the corner. This is the data we have to go on. Florida had the benefit of watching for three months of how best to treat Covid patients and just carried on as normal

 

This has no bearing on how Florida responded once they DID get hit. If you have any data to account for the difference, then provide it. I'm ALL EARS!

 

And where was that?

 

That's sad, in a way, especially as I am no real fan of basketball, & have not even seen any lacrosse, that I recall, to have derogatory remarks to make about it. But, I suppose there are only so many things to do with a ball, & the world had thousands of years to come up with games, based on them, before the U.S. came along.

Plus, after your nation's loss of their vast empire, and America's pre-eminence in the world, just generally, I suppose it would be rather uncharitable of me to deny you, in fact it's the least that any American can allow a Brit to retain, a belief that some game you play is proof of your great nation status.
Good for you guys!

 

That's kind of interesting to think about. England had outlawed slavery, by that point, for more than a century. I presume they'd outlawed it in their other colonies, as well? But Apartheid, the English govt. had no problems with. Or was that something that developed after SA received Dominion status? I know I should just look this up for myself (and will, if you are not sure) but since you are such a repository of British history-- are you, by chance, an historian, by trade?-- I'm flying it by you, first.

 

@Montegriffo
As to my previous post, I suppose those were just different times. It occurs to me that, even by the early 20th century, things weren't all that much better, for many blacks, here in the U.S.of A.

 

Apartheid came after independence from British rule. That was a Boer thing. It was Britain who were responsible for the Gleneagles Agreement which encouraged countries to boycott SA on a range of things including sport and entertainment. I mean, if you are going to stop a country playing any international cricket they're going to crack eventually.
I'm actually a chef but I'm a keen amatuer historian. Especially British history, medieval being my favourite subject.

 

Well it's no real slight on America. It's more of a British obsession. Virtually every ball sport you can think of originated, was developed and codified here. All the major internationally played ones anyway. Soccer obviously, we were playing a game called football going back centuries in fact Edward I banned it in the 13th century because it was interfering with archery practice. Golf, tennis, hockey both field and more controversially ice, rugby, cricket, baseball and I'm sure I'm forgetting loads. The Aussies have come up with a couple of their own as have the US but for the most part nobody but themselves play them. I think it was probably due to the size of the British Empire that everybody started playing our games. Cricket is only really played seriously by former members of the Empire but football or soccer as you call it is played almost everywhere.