Why do gun control advocates constantly prattle about "high capacity magazines"

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  1. Kranes56

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    Thank god for implied rights.

    Tell you what, when the next mass shooting is caused by a musket instead of AR15, I’ll belive your argument.
     
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    We issue high-capacity magazines to troops because they are useful.

    Huh? In the middle of a mass shooting, just as for soldiers in the middle of battle, a few seconds may be crucial.

    As I say, we issue high-capacity magazines to troops for a reason.
     
  3. Dayton3

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    You expect a mass murderer to use a musket just to prove a point?

    Go on youtube and you can find videos that show you how to reload a single shot gun in only about ten seconds. That's six shots a minute. Doesn't sound too fast but it would enable someone to create a mass causality event with the most basic and primitive firearms.
     
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    And don’t tell lord Simmerson this but I hear a Lft. Richard Sharpe knows how to fire a musket four times a minute.
     
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    So you agree: the fact "you also don’t see the word privacy in there either" doesn't mean a thing.
    Thank you for the concession that you cannot argue against the point.
     
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    Which would mean...

    If I can prove the extreme then I can prove the moderate case is true. Rate of fire matters. Simple as that.
     
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    Excellent, the 2A is safe and we can now address the real problem. Criminals.
     
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    Yes. We need to make sure at least 70% of Americans don’t have acess to firearms. I’m glad we’re on the same page.
     
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    Lost all mine down the hole while ice fishing. All my assault rifles and all my hi capacity mags. Weird how that can happen......just like that all 12 went down that little hole. Down to the bottom in 100ft of water.
    The only gun that didn’t fall in are my 30 y/o .22 Jennings six rd capacity and the old cobra .38 special that needs repairs but isn’t worth the money to invest in it. Well, here you go officer, both my assault weapons, my Jennings and my cobra.
     
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    ... that whatever point you tied to make with your statement is invalid.
    All semi-automatics have the same rate of fire.
     
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    Unsupportable nonsense.
     
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    Let me know when a Brown Bess Musket is used in the next mass Shooting. I will wait.

    Unless there is a bump stock attached to one and not the other.
     
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    "Carter said that more than 70 percent of American adults have committed a crime that could lead to imprisonment. Based on a strictly technical reading of existing laws, the consensus among the legal experts we reached is that the number is reasonable. Way more than a majority of Americans have done something in their lives that runs afoul of some law that includes jail or prison time as a potential punishment."
    https://www.politifact.com/factchec...out-70-us-have-done-something-could-put-us-j/
     
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    Nothing here changes the fact your poit about "provacy" is invalis, ad -you- demonstrated.
    Same rate of fire - 1 round per pull of the trigger.
     
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    Silly me - I thought you might have some actual proof.
     
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    Because I have to respond to arguments like this:

    A musket has the same rate of fire as machine gun? That's a silly argument right there. It's rounds per minute for a reason. Even then doesn't a bump stock actually make it so it has more than 1 round per pull of the trigger? With a bumpstock don't you not actually pull the trigger again, you just let the recoil from the gun "pull" the trigger for you?

    Yes, citing experts and what they say on a topic isn't proof. Silly me. Next time you want to know whether it will rain or not, don't look at the "meteorologist expert" who will tell you if it rains or not. Get serious.
     
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    Fact remains:
    All semi-automatics have the same rate of fire.
    Your point, negated
    You cited an opinion, not fact.
     
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    Are you going to start with the 70% who are committing crimes?
     
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    Yes. I'd love to see actual proof of this claim.
     
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    Well that's just a nonresponse right there. You haven't negated anything. You just ignored the argument because you were losing it.

    An experts opinion which was then confirmed by other experts opinions. The politifact article breaks down how they prove it. Don't like? Debunk politifact's methodology.
     
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    Sure. I'm okay with that.
     
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    You prattled on about rate of fire - "Rate of fire matters. Simple as that."
    All semi-automatics have the same rate of fire.
    So... what's your point?
    ... and therefore not fact.
    When you can support your statement with fact, let us know.
     
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    No they don't because it's measured in rounds per minute. Not pull of triggers. That's just dumb. What you're saying is the equivalent of muskets and machine guns have the same rate of fire-You can pull a machine gun to only fire one round at a time, same as mistake. But there does seem to be a pretty big difference between the two.

    You don't know what a fact is if you're making that argument. You have to be trolling.[/QUOTE]
     
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    They fire as fast as the trigger can be pulled. Same rate of fire.
    Says he makes a claim and can only support it with opinion.
    You have to be trolling.
     
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    So what you're saying is... rounds per minute is the same as fast as the trigger can be pulled?

    *she, and expert opinion. You've never gone to someone before and trusted what they said about something before? I think there's an entire profession you might have experience with called "teachers" who's entire job it is to tell you things and you listen to them. Try imagining my source as a teacher. It might make it easier.
     

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