It should never be illegal to give another human being a drink of water.

Democrats are and are well known for lying.
Take elections for example. Oh hell they see suppression everywhere.
But fraud? Fraud by officials? Sure if it is only about race. But about men? Hell no so long as a Bidenista wins. Then man there is no fraud at all. Democrats tell us this all the time.

 

You are trying to be clever as if the courts actually tried those cases.

Look at how long it took to bring Chauvin to trial? Courts never in America went at this like a trial. Courts simply ruled against plaintiffs but not the facts of the plaintiffs. Those never saw the time of day in courts.

 

Trump, all his department heads and the right wing think tank heritage foundations are all democrats? lol

 

huh?

you have to have evidence in order to go to trial. trump and his legal team had exactly zero evidence of fraud, which is why they got their asses laughed out of court by every single judge it went in front of, which includes REPUBLICAN appointed judges, and TRUMP appointed judges lol.

demonstrably false.

demonstrably false.

 

OK so he didn't say it.

 

Georgia enhanced voters voting without outsiders working over Voters waiting in lines of their own making.

It would be instructive and interesting to learn how many of those long lines there really was. A shot of one line does not hint that most voters waited in long lines to vote.

 

I live in WV. I would be challenged wearing a MAGA shirt -- or any political shirt. Every State I have ever lived in the policy was no political shirts, signs, etc. within a certain distance of the voters.

This country has a long history of various types of political intimidation occurring at the polls. Do we (for example) want a mob of Antifa or BLM coming within a few feet of voters to "hand out water."

 

Why didn't you demonstrate your points at all? Simply demonstrate your points.

For example, name the actual case that the Judge /Jury actually heard the evidence. How long was that trial?

 

I have. What part of every single investigation to date shows no fraud, is confusing you?

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-lawsuits-election-results-2020-11

Some were dismissed on standing. Some were dismissed because there was no evidence to support the plaintiffs case. Some were dismissed with prejudice because the plaintiffs wasted the courts time with fraudulent claims and affidavits.

 

You obviously do not read my posts or the sources share on these threads.

Here is the inconvenient truth: Our corrupt ruling political class treasures its power to rig elections.

“The latest crop of voting innovations are not flawless either. "Direct-recording electronic" (DRE) equipment like touchscreens don't leave a verifiable paper trail. During a 2006 congressional race in Florida's 13th district, where DRE equipment is used, an astonishing 15% of voters cast their ballots for ... well, no one. According to the ballot results, some 18,000 voters hadn't registered a choice at all. That the election was determined by less than 400 votes made the lack of tangible records even more troubling. Florida Republican Governor Charlie Crist wants to scrap such machines, saying, "I get a receipt when I go to the bank or get gas, so why not for the most precious thing we have — the vote?" Though legislation was introduced last February requiring hard copies for "e-voting" results, Congress has yet to vote on the bill (known as the Voter Confidence and Increased Accessibility Act of 2007).”
TIME MAGAZINE, A BRIEF HISTORY OF, Ballots in America, By M.J. Stephey Monday, Nov. 03, 2008.
http://content.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1855857,00.html

 

LOL! In fact, I have provided proof that election fraud is as American as apple pie. Only partisan blindness can justify denial of that obvious truth.

But if your point is that Republicans pols are real stinkers - you know like DP pols - well, then you have a point. Happy now?

“The word ballot comes from the Italian word for small ball, ballotta, evoking the bygone practice of using colored shells or beads to cast votes. (The dreaded black ball indicated a "No" vote in ancient Greece). Early American ballots, on the other hand, mostly came in the form of one's voice. Men simply shouted their choice in public, a process known as vica voce. Though it alleviated concerns of illiteracy, the method encouraged intimidation and fraud. One of the most common forms of manipulation involved plying voters with free booze. Even Thomas Jefferson let his campaign dispense liquor on Election Day, explaining that rum, wine, brandy and beer merely rewarded the "People" (read: white, property-owning males) for their time and patience.”
TIME MAGAZINE, A BRIEF HISTORY OF, Ballots in America, By M.J. Stephey Monday, Nov. 03, 2008.
http://content.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1855857,00.html

 

Partisan political insiders cannot "refute" our well documented history of election fraud.

“Three main companies dominate the voting-machine market today: Election Systems & Software (ES&S), Sequoia Voting Systems, and Premier Election Solutions (formerly Diebold Election Systems), all of which have been accused of facilitating — or participating in — fraud. Diebold renamed itself in 2007 following the resignation of its chief executive, Walden O'Dell, over a fund-raising letter sent before the 2004 election stating that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the President."

But if corruption and invisible malware mean the destruction of voter confidence in the ballot, Internet transparency might be the solution. PBS and Youtube have partnered up to create VideoYourVote.org, a project that encourages voters to document their Election Day experiences. Of course, there's just one problem: some states haved outlawed the practice.”
TIME MAGAZINE, A BRIEF HISTORY OF, Ballots in America, By M.J. Stephey Monday, Nov. 03, 2008.
http://content.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1855857,00.html

But if I was a DP/RP party boss I would give you a medal for towing the party line.

 

So, in 2006 they found an error and have fixed it.

what impact did that have on 2020.

And it should be pointed out that was a technology failure, not fraud.

 

refuted this

 

refuted this as well

 

I see.

 

Sure you have.

 

Just to refresh your memory this was your challenge to my my post:

"so the best you can do is show some fraud back in the mid 1800s. sounds like a win for how good our elections are today" Darth Gravus

I have showed you that flagrant election fraud has been a constant throughout our history, and provided an example, not from the "mid 1800s" but from 2007. Now you ask for more proof of the rather obvious and apparently very in convenient truth. NP

PHILLY VOICE, South Philly judge of elections pleads guilty to stuffing ballot boxes, accepting bribes, Prosecutors say Domenick DeMuro, 73, inflated results for Democratic primary candidates, By Michael Tanenbaum Headshot BY MICHAEL TANENBAUM , PhillyVoice Staff, MAY 21, 2020.
https://www.phillyvoice.com/voter-f...lty-domenick-demuro-democrat-voting-machines/

American have no interest in any reforms that would take away the option of simply rigging elections. Ask any Bernie Sanders supporter.

 

Thank you. I accept your concession.

 

now, there is a good one that shows the sort of fraud we have in this country. Small scale that at best impacts local races

And the system worked and found him and he is now paying the price.

Sounds like a win.

But, what is your suggestion of a law that could stop this from happening?

 

Whenever millions of ballots vanish in 4 election cycles proof of massive election fraud is right in your face.

Again, election rigging and vote fraud have always been common in the US. Professional politicians like that - a lot. Are you really surprised?


REAL CLEAR POLITICS, 28 Million Mail-In Ballots Went Missing in Last Four Elections, By Mark Hemingway, April 24, 2020. (emphasis mine)
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...t_missing_in_last_four_elections_143033.html#!

 

Let me refresh your memory?

"There is no question about the legitimacy or importance of the State’s interest in counting only the votes of eligible voters. Moreover, the interest in orderly administration and accurate record keeping provides a sufficient justification for carefully identifying all voters participating in the election process. While the most effective method of preventing election fraud may well be debatable, the propriety of doing so is perfectly clear." (emphasis mine)
Crawford v. Marion County Election Bd., 553 U.S. 181 (200

Now, what is the percentage of reported fraud cases that remain unsolved by law enforcement?

 

Thank god that has not happened then.

People were mailed ballots but choose not to mail them back in and you call that "vanishing".

You do have an active imagination.

 

refuted this already. You've seen the investigations by trumps own department heads and the 25 year investigation conducted by the heritage foundation. Every investigation has shown you that voter fraud is statistically zero, and is not an issue in any way in the US.