Biden now wants to RESTART construction on Trump’s border wall to ‘plug gaps’ DHS head Mayorkas says

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  1. dairyair

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    Obama 2.0
    I think Obama built the most border infrastructure.

    But that doesn't stop them.
    At best it slows them, temporarily.
     
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    Companies that hire them are encouraging those invaders.
    Trump had some companies that hired and encouraged them.
    And when caught. Let them walk away free inside the USA
     
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    Any wall can be breached, but these kids and pregnant mothers are not pole vaulting over them, nor are they blasting their way through them. I'm sorry but I just can't take "virtual walls" seriously. They would require high degrees of manpower and political will, so simply stringing up sensors so people can watch streams of foreigners breach the border means absolutely nothing. Everyone within the political establishment who has supported virtual walls also supports amnesty and the free movement across borders, so if you support a virtual wall, it's because you want to provide lip service to border security with exactly zero border security.

    And "armed surveillance drones?" You are seriously contemplating firing missiles at people crossing the border?

    Not serious.
     
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    They work for Israel and Hungary in the 21st century. Could you provide some evidence that the "wall did nothing to stop anyone?"
     
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    So, all the polls that CNN, MSNBC and the rest of the Lamestream media showed daily with Biden leading by double digits were not predicting anything? Male Bovine Excrement!!!! It looks to me that you are up to your old trick of throwing fecal matter against the wall to see what will stick. What gets me is that you will parrot the left-wing talking points and then complain about some saying something that might reflect facts posted elsewhere. Kind of the pot calling the kettle black kind of thing. You also claim that I have not substantiated anything, while you have offered absolutely no proof of anything that you are posting. If you do not substantiate anything, then why should I?

    If I am reading your tirade correctly, you believe that the coming to the US is the cure for all the ails in the world. I hate to tell you, but there are 7.7 Billion people in this world. Contrary to what the liberals want you to believe, the majority want to come to the US to live. But there is not enough room. What these people should be doing is banding together to change their own countries. Not coming here. I have no problem with legal immigrants. Those that follow our laws, and enter this country the right way. I know and associate with a good many legal immigrants. Do you know what they hate the most? Illegals that come here expecting to get what they actually worked to get. But you liberals try to convolute the issue by lumping legal and illegal immigrants together. You make false claim like, "conservative are against immigration." To the less informed, they take the statement to be true. When in fact, it is a lie.

    You claim that Illegals are being tested for Covid-19 prior to being released. Another pile of Male Bovine Excrement. I guess you missed the CNN article dated March 5, 2021 where DHS was trying offering funds and test kits to Texas Communities to test illegal that had been released into their communities. So, If the Federal Government were testing these illegals prior to their being released into the community, then why does these communities need to test them. Answer: These illegals are not being tested before their release.

    For the record, I do not watch, or listen, to Carlson. I very rarely listen to any of the TV media. They are all biased in one direction of the other. I get my information, and form my personal opinions by reading both sides of the argument. I read a variety of websites that range from extremely conservative to extremely liberal. I then do my own research to verify the facts. You, on the other hand, merely regurgitate what you hear on CNN and MSNBC.

    Final point. Just because problems with Security along our southern border is not in your top 20, it does not mean that it is not in the top 20 for others. Especially since, it effects so many other areas. Areas such as drug trafficking, to include Opioids. Since January, there were two Yemenis that were caught trying to sneak across the border. Both were on the terrorist watchlist, and the no-fly list. As I have pointed out, these illegals being released into our communities pose a serious health risk. Many of the illegals have already been deported several times, and are trying to get back into this country. The fact is that the security along our southern border effects so many other areas.
     
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    Yeah he had to threaten Mexico. It still didn't stop the migrations.
     
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    Those were your words, not mine.
     
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    What amazes me is Democrats don't understand Math, but Yeah! I know that's been deemed RACIST! now also. In the United States for 2021 there are currently around 150 Million People employed for a Population of around 337 Million, so less than half the population is employed to pay Taxes to support Children, the Elderly retired people and the rest of all the Free Loading Parasites that don't want to work, now they want to bring in more Freeloader Gimmee Grabblers. Amazing the Stupidity in this Country and were currently almost at $30 TRILLION in National Debt. This Country is DOOMED, because of Liberalism and their inability to understand Math.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/269959/employment-in-the-united-
    states/#:~:text=In%202019%2C%20around%20155.76%20million,million%20employed%20people%20is%20expected.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/263762/total-population-of-the-united-states/
     
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    You see that big dip between 2020 and 2021? You know the one that drops lower then 2018? Well, that was the end of one surge, and the beginning of another. Someone has tried to claim that that was because of fear of Covid-19, but I completely disagree. The people coming up from South and Central America would rather rely on US Medicine then it would the countries that they are coming from. No, the end of the surge was because President Trump was not allowing them into the US. They were being required to stay in camps in Mexico. Many already knew that their claims for asylum were not going to be granted under the Trump Administration. So, why bother heading north? The surge resumed when they were sure Biden would win the election. Biden had promised to end Trump's policies during his campaign. Something he did his first day in office. Now, we have all these immigrants pouring into this country that is already suffering from a pandemic. The last thing we need is importing more Covid-19 cases. The fact that these illegals are being released into this country without being tested of Covid is completely irresponsible.
     
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    Yup, it will be a never ending struggle, but just not doing anything isn't really an option.
     
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    The Cat's ( TRUMP ) away, so the Mice ( Illegal Aliens ) will play. It will be interesting to see how much Financial suffering and how bad things will be around 2024, when voters begin having Yuge! buyers remorse for voting Biden over Trump.
     
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    I see what you're getting at.

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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What's wrong with that? :buggered:
     
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    Good, President Biden is correcting a mistake he made. I voted for him but I support border control and measures to stop illegal immigration. It's good to know that President Biden is not for open borders. Since your point is to compare with Trump, did Trump ever try to correct a mistake he made? Trump wouldn't even acknowledge mistakes, to start with.
     
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    Links? Proof? Evidence? Or, is this just another one of these 'everybody knows' worthless utterances...? Another classic, tiresome case of 'Trump-deflection'.

    In any event, I think based on your lack of response about maquiladoras along the border, the truth is that you know nothing at all....
     
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    I would say, Oh noooo...

    Your article did nothing to prove that walls don't work. in fact, they show the opposite considering the links Hamas is having to go through to breach the border. Meanwhile...

    How effective has the West Bank barrier been? Attacks and resulting casualties fell 80 percent almost instantly after the wall went up, according to Israel’s Foreign Ministry. Illegal labor entry dropped comparably, even as legal movement of people and goods through checkpoints remained robust.
     
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    Please understand that the West Bank Wall, and the wall Trump tried to build on the 1,550 mile-long southern U. S. border, are two very, and entirely different things, in almost every way imaginable....
     
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    That is the opposite of working with them and no good can come from being hostile with ones neighbor. Mexico would eventually turn to other nations.
     
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    If one can tunnel under the wall, what good is the wall.
     
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    Trump was trying to build a 700 mile wall.
     
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    You'll notice the wall in your article was discovered.

    Like walls, tunnels require a lot of construction however unlike walls, it all has to be done secretly. Once the tunnel is discovered, unlike walls, it's utility is destroyed. This is pretty simple stuff, so it's hard to accept that this is what you really think.
     
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    I can only imagine the outrage if Trump had done this.

     
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    "Imagine" being the operative word.:bored:
     
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    From your source:

    Hilda Solis, chair of the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors, said the decision was made after discussions with the Biden White House.

    The Biden administration has contacted communities throughout the nation to find space for undocumented children being sheltered in Border Patrol facilities. It even urged, unsuccessfully, that NASA employees go to the border to volunteer in the overcrowded camps.

    Also known as the Pomona Fairplex, the mega-facility in the city of Pomona is the third in Southern California to serve in that capacity.

    In 1942, months after the attack on Pearl Harbor, President Franklin Roosevelt authorized the detention of Japanese Americans, fearing they would be loyal to the emperor of Japan.
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    Dunno where to begin, xcept I now genuinely worrying for NASA to be canceled.

    Overall, I support sleepy Joe's decision to concentrate (pun intended) Illegal Aliens in former concentration camps in Kalifornia. :applause:
     

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