Army officer sues Virginia police over violent traffic stop

How about the officer clearly threatening his safety? I’m scared to get out. You should be? That’s an appropriate response?? Amazing how willing conservatives are to surrender their rights, unless the cop says wear a mask lol

 

Your source says this is applies when people are being ticketed. There was nothing to ticket him for.

 

Next we will discuss the IQ of Officers and Gentlemen vs. cops.

 

"In a landmark decision, the Supreme Court held that the police can make you get out of your car after a valid traffic stop. This ruling applies to the driver and all the passengers in a car. Because of this ruling in Pennsylvania vs. Mimms, a person must exit their car if ordered to do so by the police."

NO IT DOES NOT SAY, "WHEN PEOPLE ARE BEING TICKETED."

 

"In a 6-3 per curium opinion, SCOTUS held that the police routinely asked drivers who were being ticketed to exit their cars for the safety of the officer. The police stated that it would diminish the chance that person could get something from the car while the police officer is writing the ticket and attack the officer. Also if the stop was executed in a high traffic area, having the driver stand between the police car and the driver’s car allows the police to conduct the traffic stop away from moving traffic."

 

I wear a mask, and I know if the guy with the gun and badge says get the fracking hell out of the car, or turn off motorcycle..., it is not my right to refuse.

 

Nobody knows what you're up to either. Should we call 911? Smh. Try Turkey. You'll like it better.

 

See conclusion: "If a police officer orders you out of your car, you must comply and do what the officer orders but remember to not answer any questions and don’t allow the police officer to search your car."

 

That "conclusion" is not a quote from the decision. Quote the decision.

 

The Arizona cop looking for the serial killer thought my car was the right color but was wrong, still, I got the fracking hell out when he told me to.

 

Sort of like discussing the talent level between the NFL and Pop Warner football.

 

I refuse to do that, because you are just trying to kill black men and I don't want to waste my time with the Klan.

 

One Officer and Gentleman pushed in the circuit breaker on the radar, and when it popped out he pushed it back in, and when it popped out, the other Officer and Gentleman piloting the plane told him to hold it in, fried four feet of cable about three inches in diameter.

 

You refuse to do that because you are wrong. Here, I'll do it for you: "The order to get out of the car, issued after the respondent was lawfully detained, was reasonable, and thus permissible under the Fourth Amendment."
In this case, he wasn't lawfully detained. But since you are not willing to have a rational discussion and have continued making **** up about me, there is no further "discussion" to be had.

By the way, as I've mentioned on this site before, I actually have "wasted my time with the Klan" by trying to talk people out of joining. But, hey, why let a silly thing like truth get in the way?

 

Good Soldiers are taught to not obey unlawful orders.

The police officers gave unlawful orders if they did not specify the reason he was pulled over and asked to exit the car.

 

Pennsylvania v. Mimms :: 434 U.S. 106 (1977) :: Justia US Supreme Court Center
If you teach that refusing an officer's order to get out of the car works, you are working for the Klan.

The dissenting opinion reads like you, they lost. Get out of the car, obey the officers, save lives or join the Klan.

 

Generally, this is how it's done. Most police officers are willing to answer that question and not antagonize people. However, as we see in this case, some are just looking for a reason to abuse their authority. I am very thrilled about the use of cop cams. Now, they can't just outright lie in their reports.

 

Yet you couldn't manage to read the part that I already quoted for you? Why not? Did you mistakenly believe that it was part of the dissenting opinion?

I'm sorry you think that anyone who believes in legal rights works for the Klan/is killing people. I don't share your authoritarian assumptions.

 

Which I'd like to reiterate: the officer tried to do exactly that. He lied in his report and said the guy struck him. Wonder why he felt the need to make that up.

 

Camo man. Just say "the black." Try a little honesty.

 

Unless, they conveniently forget to turn them on, as has happened.

 

Me too, the second one makes some sense, the younger officer looked timid about it, but, telling people that they don't have to get out, and not being able to site law, or rulings, that clearly give us the right to refuse to come out isn't right. I've had cops tell me to exit my house, I closed the door behind me and locked it, I have done the same with a car...

 

You could be right. I haven't saw enough of this to put down an opinion I just know that it's hard to trust one side narrative..
I do know that years back while at an amusement park my daughter asked my husband to cut a string hanging off her blouse. Upon doing so with his tiny Old Timer knife that was a keep sake and around 100 years old we were suddenly confronted by a security cop who demand the knife. She would not answer, when my husband asked if he'd get it back. Just kept repeating...give me the knife. Soon we had four cops around us demanding the knife. And only one had the commonsense to tell my husband where he could go upon leaving the park to pick it up. And of course after that my husband gave up his knife. It was a scary experience and all could have been avoided if that first 20 something cop had answered his question.