Army officer sues Virginia police over violent traffic stop

So, road block, you are going to say the police can't order you out of the car, when when there is absolutely no reasonable suspicion YOU committed a crime, could be the guy they are looking for has a wooden leg, and they just want to tap the leg with their pen, and the terrorist NUKE gets through the road block, because your rights are so freaking special {said with church lady tone}.

 

Why do you hate freedom?

 

Yes, we must get rid of all individual rights because otherwise we'll get nuked by some peg-legged guy. Totally.

 

I used to carry a gun, in the military had to check it into the Security, would have to ask to get it out. As a civilian I have had a conceal carry permit, FBI check all that, gun in glove compartment. From where they were standing at first, he could have exited and they would not have seen it... He should have got out. The only victim here is the officer fired.

 

No, they could have said why they stopped him when he asked and the explanation would have resulted in everyone going on their way in 30 seconds.

And, err, he did drive away at the end!

 

Actually, since you were so kind to ask something similar did happen to me many years ago. In a case of mistaken identity, I was pulled over by two cops who were pretty aggressive. They asked me to exit my vehicle, and they handcuffed me. They didn’t tell why they were doing any of it. Another cop car came by with someone in the back that said I wasn’t the guy that robbed him. The police then let me go without any fanfare and I went on with my life. Never at any point did I even think for a moment it would be a good idea, in any way to not listen to what the police asked me. I’m not saying the cops are always right, but I always knew that not listening to a cop is likely to make your situation much worse , not better. I listened to what they asked me to do and if any of these other geniuses would have done the same they would likely , if they had done nothing wrong, went home without incident. Play stupid games , win stupid prizes.

I will concede , after seeing more of this story , I think the cops could have handled it much better. But , the one common denominator in most of these stories is not listening to a duly appointed police officer. Just listen!

 

Sad that you make so many excuses for tyranny. If cops have that much free time maybe we should be cutting their funding.

 

God forbid he have a gun!

 

Just listen, the cop is your master and must be obeyed! Your job is to serve them!

 

You also have a right to know why you’re being stopped and not to have your life threatened.

 

He's a thug, not a victim. "Victims" don't lie in their police reports to try to get out of trouble.

 

Just amazing how little some people value their rights.

 

For some, obedience to perceived authority figures will always be more important.

 

So, t’s better to fight and get pepper sprayed or killed? I’m not in love with cops. Some can be pretty arrogant and abusive. But for the most part they put their life on the line every day, and keep society relatively civil. I think the least we can do is show them a little respect. If you keep your nose clean and show a little respect you probably won’t have too many problems with the cops.

 

What disrespect did he show before they drew weapons on him and threatened him with lethal force?

 

I did say , I think the cops didn’t handle this situation well. . The cops asked him to exit the vehicle, which is their right to do, he refused.

 

No it’s better for the cops to pull their head from their collective ass.
Respect is earned. Had they shown a little when they stopped the car, it would have all gone differently.

 

I am very happy to hear that the senior officer has been fired.

 

Did he? He should have followed the lawful orders of the police and CERTAINLY NOT have tried to invoke his military service as some claim of privilege.

Watch the video here and how when the officer dose grab his arm in an attempt to get him out the guy resists and pulls his arm back trying to break and does break the grip.

 

Saying he should have followed the lawful orders of the police is excuse making? You think they just should have said "Oh OK have a nice day" and got back in their vehicle?

And this guy is an officer, he may face a courts martial for trying to pull his rank and service. Not sure what the code of conduct for officers says. I need to talk to my Marine Major son about that.

 

Yes. That's exactly what they should have done the moment they saw that he had tags. At most, they should have put their weapons away, asked for license/registration/etc, and then gone with "Oh, okay, have a nice day." They shouldn't have approached threatening lethal force, told him that he should be afraid even if he obeyed their orders, and then lied about the incident in a police report. How is this remotely a controversial proposal?

 

Not at that point, they don't have to say jack other than get out of the vehicle. Getting out or not getting out is NOT a debatable point between the two parties. Get out so the police can be assured of yours and their safety and THEN you can discuss it and show them the papers for your just purchase vehicle.