Army officer sues Virginia police over violent traffic stop

Unless they have reasonable cause to lawfully detain him, they shouldn't even be starting with that. Again, there's a reason they let him go without any charges and then lied about him attacking them. Mull that over for a bit.

 

They were trying to assess his license and registration after having driven behind him with blue lights flashing for quite a distance. In time for an officer from the other direct to arrive. Then the windows were dark and they could not see in, it had also block the dealer tag which was not on the bumper but behind the tinted window. They didn't know if he was black or white until they walked up on the vehicle already alert.

It's REAL simple, follow the lawful orders of the police.

 

It was less than a mile. He slowed down well below the speed limit, put on his flashers, and pulled over in a well-lit area.

In about a minute in a half, if not less. The same officer who admitted that his behavior in waiting for a well-lit area was totally legal and totally normal

What felony is that?

Which is visible in the well-lit area.

Not even something I've brought up in the slightest.

Maybe the police should follow the law? Huh? They had no cause to detain him.

 

Now he needs to be charged for assault and battery under color of authority and given a fair trial. Also, his sovereign immunity should be waived by a judge on the civil lawsuit.

 

He had a right to refuse.

 

The officer did not issue a lawful order. They had no reason to ask him to get out of his car, and he had every right to tell the officer to **** off

 

Yeah a whole mile.

And all you gotta do is follow their lawful orders and not debate it with them. Why did he pull his arm back when the officer grabbed it? Is that cooperating? Why did he try to use his military service? People in the military commit crimes.

 

When he started with the "I serve my country.........." stuff.

 

They made it impossible for him to comply by giving him contradictory commands while threatening him unnecessarily with deadly force.

 

They did to determine ownership of the vehicle.

Hey you guys go ahead and do the same whenever the police pull you over for something, don't follow their commands, argue with them. resist them when the grab you.

Me I'll follow their commands and within a few minutes be on my way.

 

As soon as the officer told him to unbuckle (to reach down) the seat belt those officers immediately put themselves in danger.

 

You would be really at home in countries like Russia, China and North Korea

 

Not even a whole mile. And the other officer admitted that this was legal and typical. These orders were only "lawful", and compliance was only necessary, if the man was being detailed on reasonable suspicion for committing a crime, which is at best questionable at this point.

I'll ask you again: 1) If he was being arrested for evading the police, why wasn't he charged? 2) Why did the police tell him that he should be afraid to obey their orders? 3) Why did the police falsify their report?

 

Which they can do without the threat of lethal force. "I dunno" is not reasonable suspicion of a crime.

Even of they tell you you need to be afraid even if you do follow their commands? Even if they falsify the report afterward? Obeying the unlawful commands of crooked cops in blind obedience to authority is not a guarantee of safety when up against thugs like this.

 

The officer should have checked the tag, apologized for pulling the Lt. over and left. Instead the usual shakedown. Now his fat ignorant ass is fired and he is being sued. Happy days

 

After they illegally rummage through your personal belongings then plant some coke, perhaps. US Law enforcement is out of control with all of these warrantless roadside searches and general harassment of citizens because of asset forfeiture laws and the scummy war on drugs crap. They need to be reigned in and taught how to be polite, write their tickets and get the hell away.

 

Is that after the officer told him he’d “ride the lightening” and that he was right to be afraid?
Why didn’t he explain why he was stopping him or making him exit? Why was he screaming when the soldier was staying calm?

 

I think they should have not approached like this guy just murdered someone. They also shouldn’t have threatened him when he expressed being fearful for his life. They work for us, not the other way around.

 

Saying it louder isn't going to help.

 

You know what I find remarkable here? The same people that are blaming the guy for "causing" the cops to treat him so poorly absolutely lost their minds when Ashli Babbitt was shot and she was actually disobeying a command to stop. They can't come out and say they apply different standards based on a person's race but that's exactly what is happening. Just own your (not you) bigotry!

The hypocrisy is unreal.

 

It is. I've been "manhandled" by a few cops for no reason. One was so brazen he threatened my life and dared me to report him. I did and the Chief just ignored the complaint. I am absolutely convinced that cop is going to be involved in an unjustified killing one day. He is still on the force and still a major you-know-what. It's not a matter of IF, but WHEN.

 

Only the ones they deem "worthy" are allowed to be "free".

 

And, the sickest part is there are probably a gazillion job offers out there for him from people that think he was dismissed unfairly.

 

The people that believe that nonsense also believe that is some kind of *proof* that he was up to something. It can't possibly be that he was actually scared and confused about what was happening to him.

Asinine. Makes my skin crawl.