Derek Chauvin Murder Trial is on

Exactly, what Chauvin did was extreme.

No I would not agree. Floyd was handcuffed, face down on the pavement, he was already being restrained and there was no reason whatsoever for the use of the knee on the neck and it is not part of police training. Or if it is done for whatever reason it must be removed as soon as possible to prevent asphyxiation.

That's incorrect, the expert witness estimated about 91.5 lbs of weight on Floyd's neck.

But it wasn't according to all the evidence.

It wasn't the case so it was unreasonable.

None of the above speculation changes the facts of what happened.

Actually the exact words used by the expert witnesses were "unnecessary", "excessive" and "deadly".

 

Yep, as I guessed, more irrelevance from you.

 

It is in the sense that if police would have been justified in using a tranquilizer gun, then the knee probably would have been justified as well.

 

There is no testimony in Chauvin's case that mentions anything about the possibility of using a tranquilizer gun or any justification for the use of such a tool. So what is your point exactly other than to speculate on a scenario that has nothing to do with the Chauvin case?

 

The use-of-force expert witness testifying for the defense is constantly contradicting himself.

 

Did you just hear him say that just by looking at an arm on a video he could tell that Floyd had a strong heart beat? Amazing power that expert witness has

 

It does matter. And the reason his heart failed, is because of Chauvin. Even the medical examiner calls it a homicide.

 

Nobody cares about your quack opinion. A cardiologist took the stand and he said under oath that according to him, Floyd had an exceptionally strong heart. And it's simply not an overdose.
https://thegrio.com/2021/04/12/card...ge-floyd-strong-heart-despite-defense-claims/

And no cop says they had to restrain him. You're just making it all up.
You just do anything to pin the blame on a black guy when a white cop committed a murder.

 

So what. No cop or medical expert is siding with the defense.
It only takes 1 idiot on the jury who will say the ex-cop is innocent to get him off.
And there are plenty of idiots standing in line and willing to be on that jury to do exactly that.

 

I heard that too. Its weird some people put in so much effort to argue points which have been debunked

 

I missed that part. CNN did cut into the testimony at one point. The guy was being paid by the defense to testify. His credibility quickly went south when he claimed Chauvin was not applying force because what he was doing was not painful.

 

Actually ex cops have sided with the defense.

 

Floyd suffered from high blood pressure as experts testified.

 

To convict any person of murder, it takes a ton of proof. That is why we have trials.

 

A contributing factor is irrelevant, Rob. The main reason is what is relevant. A contributing factor can be asthma or general old age. The medical experts took the stand and said that nobody would have survived this, and that Floyd would have been alive if Chauvin didn't kill him. That makes it a homicide. That's also what the medical examiner put in his report, and he doubled down on it under oath.

You go source that this is enough

Chauvin did not comply with what he was trained to do. Floyd would have been alive if he did.

 

Maybe. It could be they will decide the guy, for reasons known only by those who know him, or perhaps only by Chauvin himself, ignored department policy and his training to wrongfully cause the death of George Floyd.

Chauvin wasn't threatened by the crowd. What is his excuse for taking the life of a citizen he is paid to protect?

Now, there's a caveat to all of this if the defense can put forward a credible explanation for George Floyd's death that has someone or something responsible for George Floyd's death I'm prepared to listen.

 

Yup, the exact technique being displayed. Totally irrelevant. Don’t look at the video, it’s a clear reminder this technique works just fine and that idiot Floyd, home invasion enthusiast and fentanyl lover, caused this whole thing himself.

Or did the guys in the video die too?

 

yeah, that was an obvious lie. The medical report said otherwise. “Strong heart” with heart disease, COVID, sickle cell, methamphetamines, fentanyl...ahahahha.

 

You can't have that, with the amount of drugs in Floyd's system any more tranquilizer would have killed him for sure.

 

Not at all, Floyd started whining before he was even restrained. Who listens to the crowd? What the hell do they know?

 

It is a technique used by the MPD for years, these guys are just trying to cover themselves, pay attention! Yes, he's being railroaded to appease black rioters. It has EVERYTHING to do with the case, Floyd killed himself with a drug overdose, Chauvin is innocent. Chauvin's use of force was entirely legitimate as was his arrest of Floyd, ergo there is no felony. Yes, it's absolutely relevant, Chauvin had no intention of killing Floyd, Floyd killed himself with his drug abuse.

 

What the hell does this have to do with ANYTHING? Why the hell did the judge allow this irrelevant testimony?

 

How is that irrelevant? It shows that Chauvin used a perfectly legitimate technique which would have been just fine if Floyd wasn't a drug addict with underlying health problems who had taken an overdose?

 

Of course not, that's just a diversionary tactic used by the defense to try to create doubt.

Only Chauvin knows for sure. Racism? Delusions of grandeur? Sadism? Other? Pick one or a combination.

 

"A contributory factor is irrelevant"? Let's all ponder that for a second shall we? The prosecution hired guns took the stand and said that, let's wait to hear from the defence. The medical examiner stated that if given Floyd's corpse without any background they'd have decided that he died of a drug overdose.

Simple, the prosecution must prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. All the defence needs to do is introduce that doubt and they've done so in spades.

Np, Floyd would have died from his drug overdose, no matter what Chauvin did.