Ukraine: Far-right activists mark 78th anniversary of Ukrainian SS division in capitel Kiev

Biden extorted Ukraine.
Biden needs to be exposed by our media.

 

I don't subscribe to any party-line I use my own. Where is that Nazi army now, using cover and concealment I suppose.

 

Why give Ukraine money when Biden extorted them first?

 

I served in the Army in Germany and the Nazis vanished.

 

Then why is the OP worried about their recognition?

 

I believe the thrust is that some powerful people in Ukraine still operate as did the Nazis.

 

I suppose you are referencing the Biden threat to withhold funding to an earlier Ukrainian government unless they removed a prosecutor for failure to investigate corruption. They removed him (was it Viktor Shokin?) and got the aid. Biden was bluffing, he had no power to withhold Congressionally approved funding anymore than Trump did. But, he later bragged about it publicly (not the first time he has gotten in trouble over some of his remarks...nor will it be the last).

The difference is that Biden "threatened," while Trump actually did withhold funding.

 

If the money had been appropriated by Congress, it would have been difficult for Biden to have withheld it. At the time, the concern of the administration and our NATO allies was over political corruption in Ukraine. I believe Yanukovych (the pro-Russian head of government) was already gone, but many of his former supporters were still in the Ukrainian government. Ukraine is split among pro-Westerners and pro-Russians.

 

That's interesting. What's seems contradictory?

I always thought the word, "tolerance", was odd... but maybe something is lost in translation.

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What country sends you to prison for not believing that Stalin won WW 2? Not sure what Hitler was, although I suspect Catholic is correct. Stalin, I assume, was an athesist, as a communist. Pretty much accepted today that whatever else they did, both were responsible for the deaths of millions.

On the contradiction...you noted that Putin was into an historically arch enemy of the Israelites. That would tend to make him an anti-Semite. But then you said he seemed proud of the fact that the early Bolsheviks were Jewish and that he admires Stalin (who was not Jewish, as far as I know).

Perhaps you are associating followers of Judaism with globalists and ethnic-whatever's with nationalism? So...Stalin and Hitler were ethnic nationalists while the early Bolsheviks (particularly the Trotskyites) were globalists?

 

By speaking in "Nazi" code, you've lost me. ["Nazis" never existed - that was a term used by Hitler's enemies.]

Are you referring to Hitler or Trump ??

Explain "still operate as did the Nazis" ?? The current evil world order [like this topic] is fill with BIG LIES about Hitler and National Socialists.

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Too bad we didn't stay home during WWI and let the Europeans do what they did best for over a millennia, slaughter each other till THEY had their fill of it...wonder what the world would look like today?

 

You misunderstood my post... so I will clarify.

Putin is right about Stalin winning WW2. FDR sent Stalin over 11 billions dollars in military aid and hardware [trucks, tanks, planes, etc] so Stalin's marxists would win and occupy, enslave and destroy half of Europe.

The victors of a war get to write the history. Modern "history" is filled with marxist BIG LIES, especially about Hitler and WW2.

In some countries, it is against the law and many have been imprisoned for denying marxist BIG LIES about Hitler and WW2.

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Yes...I asked you to name them. Do you think the pictures of the discovered German concentration camps were fakes? There are photographs and camp records showing mass murder on the part of German camp guards. Most likely, Stalin could not have won WW II without U.S. aid. Such aid was essential to holding off a German invasion of the UK, along with the Battle of Britain and the Battle of the Atlantic. Stalin was an ally of convenience, completely in line with British foreign policy since the Congress of Vienna. The invasion of Russia may have been Hitler's greatest error. He expected a quick victory in Russia and then a return to the Western Front.

I lived in Germany for 12 years...most of those old enough to remember the war told me that they knew the war would be lost after the Stalingrad defeat.

 

WW1 was fostered by democrats and marxists to destroy Christian monarchy in Europe because most of the monarchs at that time were one big extended family [many of them descendants of Queen Victoria] and Europe was entering a time of peace.

Before WW1, most of the royalty of Europe were Germanic. Britain, Germany and Russia were ruled by COUSINS who sometimes wore each other's military uniforms. Russian Tsars historically liked to marry German princesses so Russia's last Tsar, Nicholas II [who was married to German princess Alexandra] was also Germanic. Cousins Tsar Nicholas II and Kaiser Wilhelm II sent many personal friendly messages to one another trying to prevent war. But there were evil foreign forces within their countries/governments that wanted war and revolution and undermined their efforts. For example, the Kaiser's war-mongering "German" chancellor [he was NOT all ethnic German] intentionally distorted the Kaiser's message for peace and instead sent his own message for war to the German embassy in Russia.

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Hitler and not Trump in any fashion.

Read this history of the 3rd Reich.

 

According to Wiki: Sixteen European countries and Israel have laws against Holocaust denial...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_Holocaust_denial


NY Times:

EU adopts measure outlawing Holocaust denial

The European Union approved legislation Thursday that would make denying the Holocaust punishable by jail sentences...

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/19/world/europe/19iht-eu.4.5359640.html


In 2014 Putin's Russia enacted a law against Rehabilitation of Nazism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_Against_Rehabilitation_of_Nazism


Russian president passes law against rehabilitation of Nazism

Moscow, Apr 6 (Prensa Latina)- Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a law that strengthens sanctions against insults to World War II veterans and the rehabilitation of Nazism, it was reported in Moscow on Tuesday.

Deputies of the Russian State Duma (Lower House of Parliament) presented in February the proposals for amendments to the law on criminal liability for insulting veterans of the Great Patriotic War.

Irina Yarovaya, vice president of the State Duma, proposed classifying the public propagation of deliberately false information about the veterans of the Great Patriotic War as one of the forms of the rehabilitation of Nazism.

She explained that the initiative came from the members of the United Russia party in the State Duma, but was supported by other organizations, TASS news agency informed.

Yarovaya recalled that the amendments to the Constitution established the 'unconditional moral value' of the heroic actions of the Russian people in the Great Patriotic War.

The rehabilitation of Nazism, previously prohibited for officials and the media, with the new law, will also be illegal for any Russian citizen on the internet, with punishments between two million (29,000 dollars) and five million rubles (65,000 dollars), or up to five years in jail.

https://www.plenglish.com/index.php...t-passes-law-against-rehabilitation-of-nazism

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Didn't WW I begin officially with the violation of neutral Belgium by the German Army? Prior to that, various treaty obligations came into play with the assassination of the Archduke Ferdinand and his wife while visiting Sarajevo, in a rebellious part of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire. The Austrian-Hungarian Empire blames Serbia, over whom they ruled. The Russians took the Serbs side, the Germans took the side of the Austria-Hungarians. France took the side of Russia, the UK, the side of France, etc. In early August 1914, the Germans at tacked France through Belgium, a neutral country. In mid-August, Russia attacked East Prussia. The Germans were stopped in the Battle of the Marne, on the Western Front, while the Russians were stopped, on the Eastern Front, at the Battle of Tannenberg.

 

OK...thanks. So...some are quite recent...e.g. Russia. Probably, moves to counter a growing move toward national nationalism and away from globalism. Isn't that similar to the Serbian nationalism that began WW I and ended the Age of Empires?

 

I don't get involved in never-ending debates.

My only statement is = the so-called "holocaust" is not history, it's prophecy!


What matters is many countries have made it illegal to voice a contrary opinion to the marxist victors' history of Hitler and WW2.

Why ?

Why WW2 ?

Do they send people to prison for voicing contrary opinions to other historical wars ??

I wouldn't be surprised if marxists in the USA make it illegal to glorify the Confederacy... but that hasn't happened YET!

Does Russia and other European countries have laws against glorifying Napoleon"

Hitler never made it to Moscow... but Napoleon did... and his French troops occupied Moscow which was then partially destroy by a huge fire [who started the fire is still in dispute.] Does Putin constantly demonize Napoleon like he does Hitler? Ironically, in his autobiography, Putin jokingly compared himself to Napoleon!

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There is no great debate about the holocaust. And, it seems you are an anti-semite, no? I presume you are forecasting ethnic nationalism vs. global Judaism. We fought that battle in WW 2. Neither won. Hitler died by suicide in a Berlin bunker. Six million practitioners of Judaism died. Between 50 and 100 million people died in total. No one wants another world war...for any reason.

 

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Democrats and marxists fostered WW1

Back in 1857... there was a speech given to members of congress at the US Capitol in Washington DC that advocated the total destruction of all European monarchies [especially the Russian monarchy] via war and revolution. Ironically that speech is called, "DEFENCE OF ARMAGEDDON" !

Fastforward 60 years... President Wilson in his famous April 1917 war speech to congress also advocated destroying European monarchies via war and revolution. In his speech Wilson praised the revolutionaries who a few weeks earlier had deposed Tsar Nicholas and destroyed Russia's monarchy... Wilson said those revolutionaries were America's partners.

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You're the one that's believing propaganda. For example you blame Stalin for destroying the Church of Christ the Reedemer, and yet it was the high official Lazar Kaganovich who was the one who directed its destruction. He also wanted to destroy St. Basil’s Cathedral but there was an outcry of the people.

 

I doubt that.

I think Hitler died during or shortly after the July 20, 1944 assassination bombing and it was covered up.

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Again, there are photographs and newsreels of him reviewing the troops, who were defending Berlin in the closing days. It's entirely possible that he was injured severely by the assassination attempt, but there is just too much evidence regarding his subsequent "last days" in the Berlin bunker (which I believe was near the bombed out Reichstag).