I served in Afghanistan as a US Marine, twice. Here’s the truth in two sentences

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  1. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

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    But we don't vandalize Our Capitol and wipe our **** on it's walls.
     
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  2. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    or you been speaking to some foreigners pretending to be the left and you ate it hook line and sinker
     
  3. Cybred

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    Nope.
     
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    What kind of less direct role are you thinking about?
     
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    Taliban will not have it easy this time - that money that has been secreted out of Afghanistan? Hopefully will find its way back to an insurgence
     
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    No it was not Joe and your allies had thier own means of getting people out and indeed have been doing so

    Truth is every has been caught flat-footedly by the speed of the Taliban takeover
     
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    Great post.
     
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    Like the ones here?
     
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    8 years of Obama/Biden…. This should have been done then….
     
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    I agree. There has been a generation of new Afghans growing up under relative freedom and opportunity during the last 20 years, and they will not be satisfied with the medieval orthodoxy of the Taliban like the older people might be.
    We need to covertly help them in every way we can while overtly shunning the Taliban if they resume their oppression of women and repression of human rights.
    We can't do it for them, but we can help.
    And if the Chinese can come in and help these people improve the lives of average Afghanis, then more power to them.
     
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    What EXACTLY did he do to benefit white people over others? Don’t worry. I’ll wait.
     
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    You people do understand the taliban are just going to murder them right?
     
  13. ShadowX

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    Nah you just attempt to burn down courthouses with police trapped inside and use IED’s and throw bricks at police while brutalizing innocent bystanders in the process.

    But I guess in the leftists twisted mind that’s better than vandalizing the capitol building.
     
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  14. Lee Atwater

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    We have all the control over what happens in DC that we need. We have the vote. If empty promises and bumper sticker sloganeering rules the day it is our collective fault for allowing it.

    To your main point, given the stunning collapse of the Afghan military and government virtually over night the chaos that ensued was inevitable. Complacency on the part of Afghans was replaced with panic. So they flooded the airport.

    Until that time the US had been making great progress with the withdrawal during the spring and summer.

    Pentagon Accelerates Withdrawal From Afghanistan
    May 25, 2021
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/25/us/politics/us-afghanistan-withdrawal.html

    US withdrawal from Afghanistan passes halfway point
    BY ELLEN MITCHELL - 06/08/21 12:57 PM EDT

    The U.S. military has passed the halfway point in withdrawing its forces from Afghanistan, the Pentagon announced Tuesday.

    U.S. Central Command (Centcom) estimates that it has “completed greater than 50 percent of the entire retrograde process,” flying out roughly 500 loads of material via cargo aircraft and turning over nearly 13,000 pieces of equipment to the Defense Logistics Agency for destruction, the command said in a statement Tuesday.

    The United States also has officially handed over six facilities to the Afghan military.

    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/557360-us-withdrawal-from-afghanistan-past-halfway-point
     
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    He has gotten it all back and then some.

    No more comical than you thinking Trump cares about you or working-class Americans
    it is remarkable how many people on this forum were born without a sense of irony
     
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    One could ask you why Trump is an honest man of integrity yet see Biden as totally corrupt when the fact of the matter both are totally corrupt
     
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    yes it should have, and it should have been done in the 4 years of Trump. But it was not
     
  18. Patricio Da Silva

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    Right, uhh...

    How can anyone take you seriously if you cannot grasp something as simple as civilized debate.
     
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    Aww...puppy love is so cute.

    The hatred is hilarious.
     
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    At least he could speak a full sentence.
     
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    The only thing that pisses me off about it is they just handed over military weaponry to the Taliban.
     
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    When Biden pulled out of Bagram without telling the Afghan base commander things went downhill from there. Biden doesn’t care about Americans left behind.
     
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    Biden's focus is on Hunter's "art" sales and providing political favors in return.
     
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    Nah. Trump's son didn't become Michaelangelo overnight and begin accepting $500K payments for paintings in return for political favors like Joe and Hunter are doing. I could go on, but I sense that you're pretty Blaise about any amount of Democratic corruption.
     
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    As of June 8 the Pentagon announced we were roughly at the midpoint of the withdrawal in terms of equipment, essentially without incident. The admin was in the process of working out the details of how we would support the Afghan government and military if it was required. Things were going well. Then the Afghan government/military collapsed as the Taliban swept through the provinces meeting little to no resistance resulting in the chaotic situation at the airport. Military equipment left in the hands of Afghans was seized. Afghans flocked to the airport in a panic. The key component to the recent chaos being capitulation by Afghan officials. Something the US had no control over and did not expect.
     
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