Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took top-secret action to protect nuclear weapons

Doesn't show up on the official history of SecDefs

https://history.defense.gov/DOD-History/Secretaries-of-Defense/

Sorry... No reason the JCOS is going to need to go to a political hack in order for him to do his job...

 

Could you source when rogue military elements of a democratic country have warned enemies of an impending attack behind the backs of the civilian leadership?

 

That does not change the fact that the only way to do what Milley is alleged to have at least attempted to do, is to remove Trump from office by some legal means. And only the 25th Amendment (which I think only requires a majority of the Cabinet, not all of them), or a run of the mill impeachment. If the situation were truly dire enough, you could get concurrence on the 25th Amendment removal in a matter of hours. Yes, the President can "appeal". But given the short amount of time in between 1/6 and 1/20, which are the most important and relevant dates to this topic, neither a Presidential "appeal" of the VP and Cabinet's action, nor a regular impeachment could have been accomplished.

 

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6272717027001#sp=show-clips

 

A lot of pro-treason sentiment on this forum. I was surprised, but now I'm only saddened.

 

NOTHING, Trump has said he was told nothing of Milley's conversation nor has the DoD or Milley said Trump was told. The SecDef at the time of the second call has stated publicly today that Milley did not advise him before that he was going to make the call, he would have ordered him not to do so, nor did he advise him after the call of these alleged Chinese concerns as was his DUTY.

And if he lied to a foreign advisory claiming some control over our nuclear arsenal and they should deal with him and he would warn them of any attack.................that's a courts-martial.

 

Give me the Cliff Notes what are you claiming it says?

 

Since there is no evidence of treason, any support of Milley on this forum doesn't fall into that category...

 

If Trump was aware of a riot potential, then his oath of office required him to ensure sufficient Capitol protection.

 

Heh, so the only example you can think of a rogue military elements of a democratic country warning enemies of an impending attack behind the backs of the civilian leadership is...Milley?

So in other words, this entire comment of yours was BS.

You guys are not even trying to make a cogent argument anymore.

 

“General Li, you and I have known each other for now five years. If we’re going to attack, I’m going to call you ahead of time. It’s not going to be a surprise.”

That's pretty compelling evidence of treason.

Of course, Woodward's book may be BS, but it's worth an investigation to find out.

 

The question of the constitutionality of "Acting Secretaries" in the Cabinet has been a conservative issue for some time. They're been "tolerated" for convenience sake, but Trump took that and used it to expand Presidential powers. Neither the Legislative or Judiciary have "acting" members. The Constitution requires that the President nominate cabinet members and that the Senate act upon the nominations. Trump expanded that to appoint "acting cabinet members," but to withhold nominating them until they proved their loyalty. Based on original intent or constitutional literalism, conservatives such as Clarence Thomas and conservative journals have held "acting secretaries" to be unconstitutional.

 

It's consistent with the War Powers Act, which grants Presidential emergency powers only in cases of defense. There is no legitimate first strike U.S. policy without evidence of an impending attack on the U.S. Milley was simply reminding the Chinese of this...i.e. despite the videos of the coup attempt, it failed and U.S. policy toward China hasn't changed.

 

False, that is a police action he does not command the police. The DC police control the streets. The Mayor has to request any troops to be deployed and that has to go through strict sign offs and procedures. And THEN the NG can be called to go to their depot, out on their riot control gear and get armed and organized and then drive to DC and deploy. Once the Mayor decided she needed that help as the protest moved to the Capital and the Capital Police realized they were totally unprepared that process was put in place and NG troops arrived around 6PM I believe it was.

 

Lol yah but trump lies all the time.
China didn’t do anything to get nuked, so why would it be bad to tell them that we aren’t gonna nuke them?

 

Trump probably did more to keep us out of foreign entanglements and war than any other president over the past 20 years, in addition to brokering the Abraham peace accords. And you want us to believe that he's the most dangerous POTUS the country has ever seen? I think not. What is dangerous is a rogue general like Milley undercutting the President of which he is sworn to serve.

 

Yeah righto Ringo.Keep convinving yerself of that drool.
What part of Being a Potus and living and operating out of
the White House escapes you and yours.Pelosi Lives outside
San Fransico.She also lives to traipse back and forth between California
and D.C.
Trumps plea was Not Formal Enough fir ya eh.
Name the Trump formal plea that Impresses you mostest.

 

There was NO evidence of an impending attack by the United States on China. Milley is not the one who should have been talking to the Chinese military leader he has no command and control authority and if he gave the impression to that Chinese General that he did that is in violation of his authority. And if he hinted at all that he would pass on a heads up of any attack then he should be arrested and tried before a military tribunal. He already should for dereliction of duty and acting outside his authority.

 

This statement: “General Li, you and I have known each other for now five years. If we’re going to attack, I’m going to call you ahead of time. It’s not going to be a surprise.”

Is not related to any claim about Presidential emergency powers since there was no attempt by Trump to start any sort of war. It would have been treason even if there had been attempt to start a war. I'm curious where you got this talking point from because it's pretty bad. I would recommend to stop using that site to tell you how to think.

 

What specifically are you denying here and be specific and what is the basis of your denial?

It was not for Trump to make the request he is not in charge of policing DC nor the Capital nor can he order the military onto those streets for a police action. The DoD had offered to both and they turned extra at or around the Capital. They did get some street control guardsmen, but even they could not just be redeployed. It has to come from the Capital police and the Mayor of DC.

 

Yeah righto.I mean who is this Trump bub anywho.
Just who does he think he was.Some POTUS.
We get yer overall analysis.It's so unbeliavably cocky and wrong-sided
Historians may have to take special medication in order to explain it.

 

If that is an accurate transcript of what he said that is treason by an officer of the military. If he gave General Li the impression he had some control of the nuclear arsenal that should at the least require his firing and possible charges of asserting authority he did not have. That he did not inform of the President or SecDef is dereliction of duty and insubordination.

 

What specifically are you denying here and be specific and what is the basis of your denial?

It was not for Trump to make the request he is not in charge of policing DC nor the Capital nor can he order the military onto those streets for a police action. The DoD had offered to both and they turned extra at or around the Capital. They did get some street control guardsmen, but even they could not just be redeployed. It has to come from the Capital police and the Mayor of DC.

 

He could have easily "tweeted" his rioting followers to immediately leave the Capitol Building. He didn't.

 

Has the DoD or Milley said the the President was informed of the phone calls..........no.

Milley has no authority to tell China what is our military posture or policy of tell them that if the there is an attack coming he would warn to them so they could prepared for it.

And of course since there is no evidence a nuclear attack was even considered............

Milley, if the allegations are true, acted in dereliction of his duty and outside his authority and in cahoots with our worst nuclear enemy and advisary.