The Emerging Religion of Wokeness

We're talking about two very different types of 'spoiled'.

 

Colour blindness. There is a controversial subject these days.

 

Seriously? Never heard of Tulsi Gabbard's and Dennis Kucinich's trip to meet Assad in Syria during the civil war there?
https://www.theatlantic.com/news/ar...tion-that-sent-tulsi-gabbard-to-syria/514763/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/26/tulsi-gabbard-bashar-al-assad-syria-democrats

I already mentioned Jeremy Corbyn. A quick google search would have shown you that he was a paid collaborator of the Iranian propaganda channel PressTV, as were other British MPs, like George Galloway. If this doesn't qualify as promoting oppressive dictatorships, nothing does.
https://www.businessinsider.com/jeremy-corbyn-paid-iran-press-tv-tortured-journalist-2016-6

 

I haven’t heard of any of those people before. I’m honestly not going to go through all of it but maybe you could explain how this Tulsi Gabbard’s trip to Syria promotes the woke agenda? I don’t get it. Is she a Woke icon or something?

 

Yes. And it didn't used to be. That's an example of the Woke pushing against liberalism and equal treatment.

 

Not in my opinion, no. She isn't.

 

Do you think that when Martin Luther King Jr said that we should judge people by the content of their character but not the colour of their skin that he was promoting the idea that we should be colour blind?

 

She was a presidential candidate for the Democratic party. She served as the U.S. Representative for Hawaii's 2nd congressional district from 2013 to 2021.

Yes, her actions were designed to promote the woke agenda. She's against the US projecting power, she thinks universal peace is feasible now, she wants America to embrace regimes like North Korea. Cancelling America's traditional role on the international stage, universal peace now utopia and tolerance for the intolerant - those are at the very heart of the woke agenda.

Source https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/elections/tulsi-gabbard.html

 

Isn’t the right also very interested in cancelling America’s traditional role on the international stage? Wasn’t that part of Trump’s agenda?

I’m not sure why the woks agenda, which includes promoting gay rights, trans and women’s rights would want to promote totalitarian regimes that limit those rights. Am I missing something?

 

I'm not sure Trump had an agenda, other than being reelected.

The woke mind is complicated. Generally speaking, they consider that nations or groups they see as oppressed by Western countries have the right to do whatever they want to their own as long as they can justify their actions as local or group culture, customs, traditions. Respecting the so-called oppressed groups' cultures is one of those sacred cows of wokeism, individual and human rights be damned.

 

Only to racists.

 

Of course he was.

 

I think you are misunderstanding what the term "Woke" means.

 

I didn't know him, so I don't know. But I would take it that way, yes. The idea is to care about individuals for who they are as individuals and not as interchangeable representatives of a monolith made of group average statistics.

 

I know what it meant when it was first used by black communities. It's something else entirely today. It's not an exclusive American phenomenon either. The ideology is much older than the term itself. The concept is being twisted to fit some pretty unsavory agendas.

I follow - among other sources - your own media to understand wokeness:
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/12/politics/woke-green-new-deal-defund-the-police/index.html

 

Well you referred to Tulsi Gabbard as woke, which is probably the first time that was ever applied to her. Just because you don't want to invade another country doesn't mean you're woke.

 

Not wanting to invade another country is perfectly fine. Pandering to the leader of an enemy state, like Gabbard did, is another poisoned dish altogether.

 

Maybe, but it has nothing to do with being woke.

 

Do you believe that life is the same for an African American as it is for a European American ? Is there a level playing field for both groups of people?

 

The richest and most educated people in America are NON white. Whites come in at second place. This is according to official stats.

Try arguing that whites have it best and easiest against that reality.

 

So it sounds like you are saying that there is a disadvantage to people who are white in America. It is better to be African American.
Is that true? Do you claim that white people tend to have less education, less income, are more likely to be arrested, have a higher infant mortality rate are less likely to own a home but more likely to go to prison etc?

 

Not in the original sense of the term.

Maybe I'm taking it a bit too far, because I'm well aware what became of other social justice ideas like political correctness or forced preservation of immigrants' original cultures. I can see where wokness leads, and it frightens me. It's the Rotherham grooming gang all over again.

 

I don't claim anything. Your statistics show that white Americans are SECOND on the wealth/education/health ladder. Non-white Americans are at the top.

It sounds like you need to introduce yourself to this reality, and make peace with it.

 

My statistics? Did I offer statistics at some point?
I’m just asking you questions because I want to understand you. I’m pretty 50/50 on the whole thing.
Do you feel that statistic is enough to show a disparity in opportunities between white and non-white? What about those other categories I mentioned? Are they important?

 

The statistics for American socio-economics. I say 'your' statistics, because I'm not American.

Meantime, you don't need to understand ME. It's the statistics telling you this.