US says it will send troops to eastern Europe if Russia invades Ukraine

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Giftedone, Dec 8, 2021.

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Will we see body bags for xmas ?

  1. No .. We won't "actually" send troops to fight the Russians .. just Biden blowng smoke

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  2. Yes .. Ruski and USA gonna duke it out

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  3. Other - much ado about nothing

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well hey diddly ho .. Them's fighting words from Biden .. Standing up to big bad Russia and their aggressive ways.

    And .surprise surprise .. Boris is on board .. the sole nation of importance that joined us in the Iraq debacle.

    Suppose we have to find something for the troops to do .. and certainly this would give the media something to talk about .. US troops fighting directly against the Ruski's .. front row seats for this one I'm thinkin.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Is it saber rattling, or something more?

    I am curious about how the presence of graphene oxide and the clot shots in our troops will effect them in combat?

    As Putin has become quite the Sputnik injection fan himself, I wonder if Russian troops are equally inoculated with toxins? Will it be a stalemate, or just a nuclear holocaust?
     
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    Stupid Xoe is gonna take his pal Putin out to the woodshed and give him a good old whuppin. The Ukrainians have for Xiden already.
     
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    Funny that no mention was made about Ukraine killing and attacking Russian citizens the way Georgia did in S. Ossetia and if Putin would still be to blame if Russia invaded?

    Of course!
    See, that's the benefit of being a US client state, you might be poor and remain poor, and your leaders might be crooks, but you're never to blame.:oldman:
     
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    US President Joe Biden has said that putting American troops on the ground in Ukraine in the event of a Russian invasion is "not on the table".

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59582013
     
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  6. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Looks like was Putin who did the whuppin .. Biden already gone back on the "Sending Troops" idea .. suffering from foot in mouth disease again.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't worry about Heir Putinsky .. Biden already backtracking on the whole "Send in the Troops" idea.. " IT IS ALL as I HAD Foreseen" ..
     
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    Your link doesn't mention Biden just says the US so not sure where the Guardian got their information. Since Ukraine is not a NATO country this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone Biden is not sending troops there and I agree with this decision 100%.
     
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    The Guardian article doesn't contradict what Biden said abot not sending troops to Ukraine. It says the US will send more troops t oexisting NATO nations in E.Europe. I thnk someone else on the thread might ave been looking for a 'gotcha' that doesn't exist.

    Biden is backing America's NATO allies. A good thing & a nice change of pace.
     
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    Turkey is a NATO member. Turkey is no ally. NATO has outlived its original purpose and should go away. Ask Yugoslavia.
     
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    Oh dear! Is someone upset that their favourite dictator can't do exactly what he wants because of NATO. Clearly you have never forgiven NATO for stopping yet another Serbian genocide. I can certainly see why you proudly display Nazi symbols in your avatar.
     
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    Does Australia feel left out of the circle jerk called NATO? Clearly you believe the fake news narrative about Yugoslavia. Do you really think NATO would admit to ****ing up? Oh no. You like my avatar? That's Dictator Biden....and he's not my dictator. Seems to bother quite a few liberals when Biden is called for what he is.
     
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    Doesn't have to say "Biden" what kind of silliness is this.. The source is the source..
     
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    Yet, China continues to make artificial islands in the south China sea and claiming it as new territory ever increasing their 12 mile limit....and they are building forward military bases on them. Biden should be so tough on them....:roll:
     
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    Well .. as we found out a few days later Choice #1 was correct (call me psychic if you like) -- we won't be sending troops to Ukraine to fight the Russians .. and good thing too ... as this idea was dumb and dumber.

    What can one say about China other than "Whats done is done" -- all this running around crying about spilled milk is not going to change this (Latest was an arms embargo on "Cambodia" of all places - cause they were dealing with the Chinese) not going to maintain our share of the geopolitical pie. What all this belly-aching is doing however .. is distancing us from our allies .. France will not be joining our diplomatic boycott of China ... its like a drowning person flailing around

    Trumps worst Geopolitical Blunder was using the so called "Economic Nuclear option" .. and effort which backfired horribly. Biden, in an effort to emulate this stupidity ..
    The 'Nuclear Option': What Is SWIFT And What Happens If Russia Is Cut Off From It?
    https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-swift-nuclear-option/31601868.html

    Now Granted .. Biden is not targeting the whole world like Trump did .. but, the effect is still global .. the nations of the world still very upset about Trump pushing the button .. will see this button being pushed "Again" .. and redouble efforts to introduce a competiter to the US system.
     
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    Putin must be asking himself why the US under Biden would defend Ukraine if they did not defend Afghanistan.
     
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    I say back off. We need Russia vs the CCP. Tell Putin that if he perceives weakness in the withdrawal, and invades, we will do all we can to support a fierce and well supplied insurgency that will be a thorn in Russia's side for decades.
     
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    I have not heard about Ukraine killing Russian citizens. Do you have a link to that?
     
  20. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thought that was a given considering the civil war ... Color me silly but my understanding was that generally - in a civil war - each side tries to kill the other.
     
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    President Putin did not want to annex Donetsk and Lugansk when they asked at Minsk II, because he felt they were too intertwined with the rest of Ukraine, and he wouldn't know where to put the demarcation line. He said that when they took polls, the further west they went in Ukraine, the less they wanted to be a part of Russia.

    So in order to ease Donetsk and Lugansk fears of genocide by the nationalists/Nazis, he offered Russian citizenship to anyone who wanted it. Should Ukraine elevate its attacks on the people of Donetsk and Lugansk, they will then be killing Russian citizens and that gives Russia a legal right to intervene.

    You got it wrong. Biden said he will not send troops to Ukraine, but he will send troops to the rest of the Eastern Europeans to calm their fears.

    Estonia and Latvia have the same problem that Ukraine has, in that part of their countries belonged to Russia - so the people living on the land are Russians. Today those countries are fearful that Russia will try to free the Russian lands and the people who are suffering under apartheid conditions.

    I know that Putin supplements some of their pensions and incomes, and since Russia has no need of land, but does have need of people, he has offered free land in Siberia and the Far East to any Russia or Slav who wants to retain their religion and heritage - I guess they don't want to leave.


    Actually the only time I heard Vladimir Putin lose his cool and blast anyone, was Lenin for making the mess. Putin said he was a revolutionist and not a statesman and didn't know what he was doing when he began partitioning the different areas.
     
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    Reducing that by 1/3rd would be a good start.
     
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    The last time around, when the Obama administration was in office, I heard rumors that Putin in Russia wanted to carve a land root to Crimea through Ukraine. But that plan was stopped. Right now Russia is linked to Crimea through a bridge and that's not safe and secure to move troops through because bridges can be destroyed.

    As far as Russian citizens in Ukraine goes, this brings up my idea that populations in contested areas should be able to choose which side they want to pledge citizenship to, that they would be taxed by the government that they sided with to maintain the area, and the whole area should become an international zone. Administered by both governments who claim an interest in the disputed area. What do you think of that?
     
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    Your pal Putin must love you. Hey didly ho... Giftedone supports Putin, again.
     
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    The only way chickenhawks can get it up is when we strumble into a war.
     

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