Russian submarine with nuclear warheads headed for the US coast

I have news for you. A few months ago a Russian sub was followed from the channel to Gibralter and to Syria. All was fine and well until it left Syria and then disappeared off the coast of Israel.

The Americans freaked, so much so that their own jets were searching for it but to no avail. Putin said don't worry, the sub is fine we're getting messages from it. The latest I heard is they lost a Russian sub after it left Gibralter. It might be the same one or another one. For all we know, it might be sitting off the coast of NYC or Houston.

I believe the Russians have 4 subs of this category. They might be in the Black Sea watching our ships as they enter and leave, or maybe not.

 

Russian submarine with nuclear warheads headed for the US coast​

~ If they come to Los Angeles harbor there will be a long wait. We currently have over 140 ships backed up waiting to dock ... !

 

Aren't there Russians in that space station?

Didn't the US say recently that it was going to militarize space?

Ukraine has had 170,000 troops, which is half its army, sitting in trenches at the border of the Donbas Republics since May and they are continuously bombarding the civilian areas in Donetsk. In Democrat politics, blaming others for what you're doing is called flipping. It has now become part of our foreign policy as well.

There are Russian troops of course, but they're stationed 168 miles from the Ukraine border and they are well prepared should Ukraine start its mass killings of the Russians in Donetsk and Lugansk. The Republics have now uncovered large unmarked graves in areas of the Donbass that were under the nationalist armies. This is why Vladimir Putin called it genocide.

Let me enlighten you. Kiev has never complied with the Minsk II agreement so that the two Republics could rejoin Ukraine. That's because they want the wealth of the Donbas, but not its inhabitants. If the inhabitants remain, then the demographics will change and the nationalists and mafias will be kicked out of office in a fair election.

So the only solution they have, is to do what their parent and grandparents did to the Poles and Jews under the German occupation, and that is kill them off.

I'm going to call it now. The reason for all this propaganda about Russia invading Ukraine, is because the neo cons want Ukraine to attack the Republics during the Olympic Games in China when Vladimir Putin is distracted. Then when Russia responds to protect the people from genocide, they will be able to say that Russia has invaded Ukraine.

I say this, because Washington makes a habit of pulling something off during Olympic Games. It was at the games in Beijing in 2008 that the idiot Sashkavili attacked Georgia and killed the civilians and Russian peacekeepers in S. Ossetia. Naturally they flipped it and blamed Russia, that is until they couldn't hide the facts any longer. And it was when Putin was distracted at the Olympic Games in Socchi that they had the coup in Kiev.

I find the hypocrisy of Nato and the EU appalling. A few days ago the Ukrainians shot and killed some migrants that tried to cross into Ukraine. Had it been any other nation in Europe they would blasted it all over the news. Tens of thousands of migrants were sent into Greece from Turkey, yet they wouldn't send the boats back for fear the Turks would top size them - that's what civilized people do. Yet the Ukrainians, no doubt under orders from Kiev, shot the migrants and not a mention of it anywhere.



What we were once,
we've ceased to be,
for times have changed now,
can't you see?

The flag that once
waved high and true
is now all worn,
forlorn and blue.

It mourns for days
when we had pride
of noble words and not of lies.

-Jeannette​

 

The Russians never bluster and bluff, and anyone with an ounce of brains knows that. It's purely projection by the neo cons. They thought the Russians were bluffing when they took over Crimea. Yeah right!

It's about time our government grew up and began to understand the nations they're dealing with before we end up like Germany after WWII.




Projection, projection! What should we do!
For how can we know, if your words are true.
Or if we're just seeing ourselves in you.- Jeannette

 

This is how it works. You should know it from following current events since the Cold War.

Russia signs a treaty with the West, ie intermediate missile ban.
Russia keeps developing, testing and fielding said missiles.
The West gives up and FORMERLY, OPENLY, develops or fields intermediate missiles.
Russia then accuses the West of breaking the treaty, ie 'Look at what Reagan/Clinton/Obama/Bush/Biden is doing.'

and

Russia and America agree on nuclear non-proliferation treaties.
Russia and China permit North Korea and Iran to develop nuclear weapons, hindering efforts by the West to stop it.
The West walks away from the treaty and Russia and China accuse the west of abandoning nuclear non-proliferation

and

US and America agree on the non-militarization of space.
Russia and China start stalking US satellites, blinding them and blowing up their own sats as part of a
program of space militarization.
America walks away from the treaty and develops its own 'Space Force.'
Russia then declares, 'America has the world's first Space Force. They have broken their treaty.'

It's all Potemkin stuff - Russia is an expert at it.

 

If Russia fires weapons at us, we will fire weapons at Russia.

No, that's Russia's game.

Wrong. He merely attempted to defend his country from the invading Russians.

There was no flipping. Russia invaded Georgia and is to blame for that invasion.

 

Putin's tiny little joke of a torpedo is truly pathetic. The US was toying with the idea of one gigaton tsunami weapons back in the 1950s. Putin's little midget weapon can only muster 100 megatons.

If conventional war ever breaks out and we are at the point where we are sinking each other's ships, I suspect that we will sink all of their nuclear missile submarines right then and there.

Waiting until war reaches the nuclear stage will just give their subs a chance (however slim) to slip away from our attack submarines.

So what?

If they fire on our country, we will fire on their country.

Russia are the aggressors in Georgia and Ukraine.

 

And the US is an expert at flipping, so whatever they make you believe Russia is doing, is what Washington is doing. But you should know that by now.

How do you do?​

My name is Sam
as you well know,
and what I do and what I show
is not exactly what I am.

Yet there are some with eyes to see
of what will come and surely be.
from all of this chicanery.
Pity us! -Jeannette

 

~ It also has become Jimmy Kimmel's monolog ...

~ With President Joe that is very unlikely.

 

Never heard of this word.
If you mean 'flipping' as using irony or Freudian projection then here are examples of Russian flipping

We block Western media because it's propoganda
We prevent the exploitation of the working class
We are innocent victims of Hitler's war in Europe (think of the Ribbintrov-Molotov pact)
We will liberate the world from imperialism when we rule it.
Someone is plotting to kill me (Stalin)
Everyone is equal in Russia - if you challenge that the ruling elite will kill you
We support opposition parties, so long as they remain weak
We have military parades to show we stand up to American militarism
We have soverign right to mass armies on our borders to stop others massing armies on theirs
Americans can protest about their govt? Same as Russians - we can protest about American govt too
Everyone is equal, but the pigs are more equal than others

​

 

Actually there is. CHAMP can generate EMP and fry the guidance system on the missiles and the fuzing circuits in the nuke. CHAMP will impact everything in the next major conflict. And the other side has similar capability.

 

Actually there isn't. Your 'CHAMP' cruise missile is designed as a first strike hard target weapon, launched likely from an antiquated B52. That system has zero, zilch, nada to do with a hypersonic missile, already launched, that radar likely won't even pick up. And if it (radar) did, it could be less than 5 seconds before impact.

CHAMP is the way you actually start a nuclear war, not defend against it. It's very likely they are ineffective since those with nukes have protected their sites against EMP.

Dreaming.

 

You do not understand how this works. A missile in flight is GUIDED by a complex missile guidance system. That missile guidance system consists of printed circuit boards... the perfect target for EMP. EMP induces current in ferrous materials and burns them, just like old fashioned fuses burned when overloaded. The firing mechanism of a nuke is also printed circuits, subject to the same thing.

The article on CHAMP describes a missile... but its ten years old. Your microwave oven is an EMP generator. That's why you can't put metal in it. (Its also the reason why a microwave oven is a good means of protecting your small electronics.)

The generation of an EMP field doesn't need a missile. It can be a stationary generator. As far back as the 1980's, we estimated that one Counterbattery Radar in every six (one battery had six) was an EMP generator with range of about 40 kilometers and a fan of about 40 degrees. That's sufficient to act as an Air Defense asset. And that was a long time ago. It has to be even better now.

And "protection" is very, very difficult. The only way to protect against EMP is to encase the equipment to be protected in a Faraday Cage... it must be grounded... TOTALLY SEALED... not even a wire going into the cage. Almost impossible to protect a missile and its contents in flight.

 

You do realize that almost all of the medias in Russia are foreign owned? So much for blocking Western media.

In the meantime the German language RT is being blocked in Germany. Just another example of accusing others of what the West is doing.

What exploitation? Someone who moved to Russia found out he had cancer, and to cure it would have cost him a fortune in the US, while in Russia it cost him all of $100. They have great social services.

The only reason there was a WWII was because Germany needed living space to feed its large population. Read up on 'Barbarossa'. Germany's intent was to exterminate and push the Russians to the Urals. Almost all of the 20 million that died, were civilians.

As for the rest of what you wrote, it's similar garbage and not worth my bother.

 

Only if you tell the story from the middle of the story instead of starting at the beginning of the story.

Russian actions are in response to US aggression.

 

I had a $500,000 open heart triple bypass. It didn't cost me a dime. I got a great education, great experience and then a great job with a major aerospace company. I EARNED my medical care. As it SHOULD BE.

 

Oh I understand EMPs just fine. But you can't seem to grasp the fact that a hypersonic missile will go undetected in the less than 15 seconds it will be in flight. THERE IS NOT EVEN ENOUGH TIME TO PICK UP THE PHONE TO GET AUTHORITY TO DO A DAMN THING ABOUT IT,,,EVEN IF YOU COULD,,,,WHICH YOU CAN'T.

Nothing we have can intercept a hypersonic missile. Nothing. Can't see, can't detect it, can't stop it. That is reality. Deal with it.

Maybe you can run outside in 5 seconds and throw your microwave oven up in the air? It's just as useless as any defense we have.

Arrogant ass Americans said hypersonic missiles couldn't be done...the tech didn't exist...couldn't exist. Now Russia has them, China too apparently. Are we're still living in the 1970s. Wanting to put missiles on the border of the country that has a weapon we can't stop that could obliterate us. How ****ing dumb.

 

Prove it. Post a link to an unbiased source.

You can't do it of course.

 

We can detect THE LAUNCH ... you help pay for the sensors that do that. Turning on an EMP generator aimed outward at overhead space would harm no one... and just takes the flip of a switch. This sets up an expanding and contracting field... a HUGE ONE... you don't have to aim it... just in the general direction. The idea would be to put EMP generators at all targets... major cities... major military bases... oil reserves, etc... just cover the sky over the targets and the nuke never goes off... the fuze is fried... actually, fuze is fuzed... but I thought I'd make it easy to understand.

The idea is the same as Israel's IRON DOME (which they gave us and we use under the name "C-RAM" ("Counter - Rocket, Artillery, Mortar") only much longer range. Place the systems on the assets you want to protect. IRON DOME is a kinetic system and tracks targets. An EMP generator doesn't need to. Just turn on a great big expanding and contracting magnetic field that covers the whole area. Melt the nukes fusing circuits as it enters the covered area.

And I never heard anyone say they wanted to put offensive missiles in eastern Europe. Poland wants Patriots. Patriots are purely self defense missiles. I haven't heard anyone say we want to put nukes anywhere in Eastern Europe.

 

From the first sanctions as well as our other stupidities, such as Obama stealing Russia's diplomatic properties, Russia said it will respond in an equal way since it is within international law - and it has. With every attack by the US there was an equal attack by Russia.

What Putin did not do though is respond in a way that would be detrimental to Russia's interests. In that respect, the EU was quite stupid and it shocked Putin. As an example, when the EU sanctioned Russia, Putin responded by stopping all goods coming from the EU. This gave Russia the chance to start developing their own industries and agriculture so that now it not only has exceeded the US and Canada in the export of grain, but also exports meat as well. The only food product that they are still importing other than luxury items are some milk products from Finland.

The same goes for technology. Russia is now a world in itself. One of the reasons that its economic growth was not as great as it should have been, is because Putin wanted to insure Russia's survival against any and all attacks against it. Other than that, it's limited by its small population. What Russia needs is people not land.

 

For what its worth, Russian made ammo is selling like crazy. Their license to import it is expiring and Biden has promised not to renew it. Personally, I think its trashy ammo and don't use it, but when it disappears the price of US ammo will rise considerably.

 

Then why don't they give away land in exchange for people?

 

The only unbiased sources would be a foreign non MSM source, but it wouldn't conform to what you want to believe, so why bother. Besides, when I did post my sources, they started having economic problems from pressure no doubt, so

What I know is that the US can't compete in price and quality, depending of course on the product, (maybe it sells us junk), so Washington uses mafia methods, such as blackmailing countries etc. that want to buy Russian S-400's. Pressure was just exerted on India, but they're resisting it to Washington's chagrin.

I just read that the US's 3rd launch of a hypersonic missile failed. Yet Russia has had them for a few years now.

 

US generally make the best war stuff. Best tank, best fighters, best bombers, best artillery... but Russia has had a traditional lead in Directed Energy weapons, EMP generators (but we've caught up), we've got the best tank killers, but Russia used our Iraq war feed the terrorists some experimental stuff to try out that's pretty impressive (The RPG variants they have now are fairly awesome).. the Russian defense strategy has traditionally been one of massive formations of less than perfect systems... overwhelm their enemy with sheer numbers... our philosophy is just the opposite... fewer people and weapons with much greater lethality... who's right? who knows?

 

For what people? Russia can get plenty of people if they opened their immigration to everyone, but it would be at a great cost. First of all Russia is not a welfare state, so if someone comes there must be a position opened for them.

They accepted the refugees from Ukraine and placed every single one of them. None were in refugee camps. As for the Syrians they only had positions for the highly educated ones, and as for common laborers, they come from the Central Asian states and N. Korea. I read a few years ago that they were giving out 5 thousand visas a day in Moscow.

A few years back, free land was offered to any Russian or Slav that wanted to retain their language and heritage in the Far East. I don't know how that worked out because they would have been starting from scratch - sort of like our own West.