Negotiate Peace With Russia to Prevent War Over Ukraine

How does one negotiate peace with a despot who is intent on restoring the USSR?

 

Botox Vladolf is a dinosaur that's living in the past....it wouldn't be a surprise if he was being pushed into this....in hopes he makes a major blunder and experiences his "Ceaucescu moment".

 

I wouldn't recommend you seek work as a coach.

 

Whether Bismarck said it or not, the fact remains that the Russians have always come for their money. Of course, playing fair is beyond us as well as with our minions.




Fight and strife is my name
and chaos is my game.

I gear them all to kill and maim
and then covertly flip the blame
to you.

So even though I am insane,
and only think of my own gain,

there is no shame.
It's in your name

and there's nothing you can do.

- Jeannette

​

 

Yep, that's what our propaganda networks are telling us, so it must be true.

BENITO MUSSOLINI

"It's-a true!"
"Why?"
"Because-a we say it. Finito!"

​

 

That's certainly a possible scenario. But I have faith in "MAD" (Mutually Assured Destruction) that has deterred nuclear war for 70 years. China won't risk Peking, Russia won't risk Moscow, and America won't risk New York (a lot of us would willingly risk DC... LOL)

Iran, though... is the Wild Card.

 

Free nations have the right to enter into any military alliance they choose.

if Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova, want to join NATO, that is their right.

if Mexico wants to join a military alliance with Russia or China, I dont give a ****.

 

Your contention is correct. But Russians on our border would cross the line ..

 

For the most part it will be Russians dying.

 

I'm fine with subjecting Russia to a terrible end.

NATO is strongest.

That isn't a fact.

It is true that the west is reluctant to go to war.

But if we have to go to war, be it with North Korea, Iran, China, or Russia, we will destroy whoever it is that we are warring against.

 

Do you really think that if the US commits to total nuclear release that China or North Korea will have a single city still standing?

 

There would have been no problem with North Korea since Russia assured them of its protection if Kim removed the nukes, but the US would have had to remove its weapons from South Korea as well. Peace though between nations is not to Washington's liking since it means less control by Washington, so Bolton broke off the negotiations.




They say we can't fool everyone,

although it has been on my mind.​

And yet I know that what I do,

will soon return in kind. - Jeannette​

​

 

The US removed nuclear weapons from South Korea a long time ago.

 

And Afghanistan is confirmation of this.

 

We'll see soon. Everything goes to this.
But maybe you think that in the event of a war with Russia, whole cities will remain in the United States?

 

Wars can be conducted without use of nukes. MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) has deterred nuclear war for 70 years yet wars have been waged all over the globe. Russia will not risk Moscow, China will not risk Peking, and the USA will not risk New York (I say New York because many would not mind if DC went away...) In the 80's I saw the "Nuclear Fire Plan" for Europe if Russia had invaded. Germany and France were decimated... but Moscow and America weren't in the equation.

 

We crushed the Taliban in Afghanistan. They were only able to come back after we pulled out and left.

 

He backed down. Now let's do the same with the Chinese.

 

Backing down doesn't work... ask Neville Chamberlain. The Soviet Union blinked in the Cuban Missile Crisis. The Soviet Union no longer exists.

 

The Russians can supply their own security in the South Caucases now.....for 20 yrs.,little Vladdie had the luxury of US/Nato providing security in Afstan which kept the Talibs on the run....now with US vacated and Russias entire South flank exposed (via Tajikistan)....provides an irresistible temptation for the Talibs to raise hell in those neighborhood states whom they consider "brothers in arms".

Kremlin says they can negotiate with Talibs I hear??....good luck with that. )

I suspect many older Talibs remember when the Soviets rode in with their tanks and started $hit back in the 80s., and still have an axe to grind..

 

Yeah but you are still right too. I am just adding to it. They still could be expected to be a nightmare in whatever they do. Those missiles they have, certain fanatic troops and equipment, who the hell knows. We are both right.
before after operation ......still a fat head

 

Partisan crap. Trump was a dupe who divided his country and created havoc as the dupe of Putin. To pretend he did not play right into Putin's hands is absurd. How did Trump solve things in North Korea? What an absurd thing to say. The moment he finished having sex with fat boy Kim, fat boy was right back at it. Nothing changed.

Putin is emulating Stalin and playing by his book with Europe. No one knows Stalin like Ukrainians do. They know who Putin is emulating.

We can talk all we want but its Ukrainians who are in the line of fire and they know damn well its they who die first and NATO won't send soldiers other than indirectly as they are now but keeping their operations undisclosed as if they are not operating.

The Ukrainians will not bend over for a Russian invasion this is not Crimea now. You back people into a corner and they have to fight to existentially survive they will fight in the face of overwhelming odds. Ukraine is going through what Israel is. They know they are on their own. People under-estimate Putin is not as tough as he likes to posture. The mob that keeps him in his seat won't like a drawn out war of attrition. Its bad for their business.

My bet is on the mob telling Putinto safe face and get some sort of placebo agreement and walk himself down. If Putin was so smart why would he be so stupid as to back himself in a corner like he did with no way out to save his face other than depending on the West to do it. That is not strength that is the weakness of ego walking him into a corner with no exit other than one he did not want.

Putin's greatest weakness is his own need to overcompensate for his small penis. It aint rocket science.

Putin is no Stalin. Stalin had no mob running the show and using Stalin as a puppet. Putin is just a distraction for the mob to do its thing as Trump was a distraction for certain businesses to do their thing. Bottom line is, people you and I do not know who stand to lose money pull back these idiots.

Its why China continually talks how tough it is but does sweet phack all but posture. China is bankrupt. It can barely cope with Hong Kong let alone Covid 19 and it thinks it will control the world with military? No. It relies on imbalanced trade deals and currency control to create that. That is a sign of weakness not strength. It can not compete on an even trading field and Covid 19 is forcing that even playing field to emerge hurting the Chinese economy worse than any other.

 

Trump ended NOKO nuke testing, although NOT missile testing. Trump came back from North Korea with three American hostages and remains of American Soldiers from the Korean War. And for the first time in history, Trump got these things from NOKO without spending a dime in tribute to get them. It could have been better, but it was pretty good.

Did you really have to put that "penis" comment into this otherwise mature forum?

 

Provide the accurate info ...sources,links, video maybe of former EGs wishing for return of Berlin Wall.

I was in Leipzig and Gotha few years back....no such attitude.

In fact in Gotha....local authorities were digging up old graves of Soviet troops and tossing remains in incinerators.....Kremlin wasn't interested in repatriation of remains when local govts offered to send back.)....Russkis seem to have no interest in honoring....no surprise.

 

Excuse me but I have a hard time when some Trump supporter complains about the word penis given the mouth of the leader he worships.

Do I look like I will take the delection bait?

Next Trump did not end NOKO nuke testing. Why do you Trumpists live in fantasy land? North Korea never stopped its testing of nuclear missiles. Not a damn thing changed. I will not comment on Kim Jung's penis size. I will say he has a large fat head though and a wonderful haircut. Seeing him and Trump hug was wonderful.

The price for getting those hostages back was to have Trump come to North Korea and complement Fat Boy on world stage. It was a sickening display of servitude no different than what he did with Putin and Erdogan. Trump's foreign policy legacy was in fact to empower the fat boy Him, Putin and other fascist dictators across the world and at the same time alienate each and every one of his country's closest allies. He operated as a dupe for Putin and did exactly what Putin wanted.

I agreed with his approach to Iran for what it is worth but found his refusal to protect Kurds forcing his army to turn on him and go and get them disgusting.

Since you posed with the upset over a penis reference finish your outrage for me please...tell me were you upset with anything Trump said on his twitters or in interviews in the last 5 years?

Here let me help remind you of what you support:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...b70ab2-c5b3-11e9-b5e4-54aa56d5b7ce_story.html

https://www.chicagotribune.com/opin...0191025-sfjob7bizzf2fbqb7eqhcuw3uy-story.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/19/us/politics/trump-language.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/opinion/trump-republicans.html


Now before you tell me my comment was vulgar about Putin let me add it I would argue small penis syndrome applies in my opinion to Putin, Trump, Kim and many other politicians and Trump supporters to explain their beliefs and behaviours:

https://www.mentalhelp.net/anxiety/small-penis-syndrome/

Now specifically the image of Putin I argue can be described as follows and explains his posturing on world stage:

"Putin deploys hypermasculinity using visual imagery—the iconic image of Putin riding a horse bare-chested in Siberia is the most famous example—alongside humiliating verbal attacks on other men and strategic punishment of rivals. Putin’s “street masculinity”—his use of crude sayings strewn with taboo references to sweat, snot, bodily fluids, blood, and more—is a major part of his persona as not only a man, but a “muzhik.” While muzhik originally referred to a male peasant, it currently refers to a national, high-ranking, “real” masculinity, implying a contrast to less authentic versions of manliness. Putin’s heroic masculinity is grounded in the body, appearing shirtless and embracing extreme sports."

source: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1536504220920189

"It would be quite dramatic for the world if the megalomaniac and Machiavellian tendencies of a man of short stature, who is trying to impress his political opponents , his people and his younger wife would result in a Third World War. Nothing is impossible however, because history shows that major political decisions are often made by short men."

source:https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...201405/does-putin-suffer-the-napoleon-complex

"In fact Putin is both weak and strong. The relationship between each quality is more dynamic than mere coexistence, and his frailty reinforces his menace and his menace reinforces his frailty, as Russia-watchers have observed. The more insecure Putin becomes, the more frightened he becomes; the more frightened he becomes, the more aggressive he becomes; the more aggressive he becomes, the more reckless he becomes; the more reckless he becomes, the more insecure he becomes—and so on and so forth as Crimea is annexed, American elections are meddled with, Syria is sacrificed."

source:https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/vladimir-putin-russias-weak-strongman/


I am deadly serious. Putin is a man who overcompensates and much of his posturing and need to act tough is tied to his own personal insecurities as to his size. Same holds of many politicians including Trump and Kim.