Well, it's finally happened, Justice Dept handed down Seditious Conspiracy indictments

Oh really? You know, I fondly remember similar predictions and licking of chops when Mr. Mueller was named a special counsel. Are you predicting that the AG will hook bigger fish than Mr. Mueller did?

Let us know. I'll be the first to salute your prescience when the time comes.

 

Ford? The woman who was supposedly afraid of flying and hadn't the slightest bit of corroboration for her claim (other than the ridiculous Michael Avenatti and his even more ridiculous client Julie Swetnick?)

 

I hope you like crow.

 

Yes, they are like apples and oranges. The BLM-Antifa riots were worse.

Fact: the only person to die on January 6th was Ashli Babbit, a small-statured, unarmed woman whose only crime was trespassing and was shot to death by an able-bodied male. Compare this to the over dozen people killed in the BLM-Antifa summertime riots.
Fact: January 6th was one day. The BLM-Antifa riots lasted for months.
Fact: January 6th cost $1.5 million in damages. (2) BLM-Antifa riots cost $2 billion in damages. (3) For those trying to do the math at home, the BLM-Antifa riots cost 133,333.33% more than January 6th in property damage.

Pretextually, the BLM-Antifa riots were about police brutality, but how is burning down businesses and stealing Gucci bags a form of expression against supposed police brutality? Additionally, the BLM-Antifa riots happened during an election season, which is a cornerstone of our democracy; that is just one of the many reasons for why it was political. Moreover, what about the Trump inauguration riot by leftist, such as Antifa, in which 234 people were arrested and six officers needed medical attention? Why aren't there multiple January 20th threads? Why isn't there a congressional investigation into the matter?

Those who are propping up January 6th are doing so out of political expedience. They do not care about rioting in general; they care about who is doing the rioting and if that can be used for their political advantage. If they cared about rioting on the grounds of pure morality, then there would be a commission on the BLM-Antifa rioting, as that factually, statistically was more costly in loss of life and property by extraordinary magnitudes in comparison to January 6th.

 

Huh? https://rewirenewsgroup.com/ablc/20...g-evidence-christine-blasey-ford-allegations/

 

Well, despite being hampered by key witnesses refusing to cooperate (Trump, Stone, Manafort) Mueller provided ample evidence of Don's obstruction and the campaign welcoming Russia's extensive help while failing to report repeated contacts with Russians to the FBI. The key charge of conspiracy only not being pursued due to Donnie J's stupidity.
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/trump-jr-dodged-charges-because-he-was-too-dumb-to-prosecute/

 

Please don't pretend that Ms. Ford was an unimpeachable and apolitical witness with no axe to grind.

In return, I will not claim that I KNOW that Justice Kavanaugh was wrongfully accused. My suspicion is that the truth lies somewhere in the middle, as it so often does.

#freeavenatti!!!!

 

And yet, tragically, the Big Fish was not reeled in as was assumed then and as is predicted now.

Nor was Russian collusion proved even sufficiently to produce a collusion indictment. Nor is stupidity (not the same as naiveté) a crime.

So sad.

 

The difference is Ms. Ford was, wrongfully, made a fool of and Kavanaugh, in spite of his juvenile break down before Congress is now, equally wrongfully, a Supreme Court Justice.

 

I totally disagree that Harris and Christie would be the 2024 nominees, although, in that case, Christie would PROBABLY beat her. BUT, it just doesn't make sense to have a guy like Christie be the nominee when he couldn't even carry his very own state. If Biden doesn't suffer any serious health issues, and wants to run again, he will be the nominee, just as Carter was the nominee back in 1980. I'm assuming that Biden will be the nominee (maybe with a different VP choice) and either Trump or Desantis would be the Republican nominee. Even though I would personally choose different ones on both sides, I live in the real world. If I lived in fantasyland, my personal choices for the Republican ticket in 2024 would be Tim Scott and Niki Haley, not necessarily in that order. Both are qualified and Democrats would have one hell of a time trying to figure out how to run a campaign against a black man and a woman who isn't even technically white. Their normal racist and bigoted attacks on Republicans wouldn't work in this case and would have no clue how to run attack ads against them. On the other side, I would absolutely love to see a ticket of Manchin/Sinema but, again, that is pure fantasy.

 

What do you mean you disagree? I didn't predict that Christie would be the nominee. I was hypothesizing

Yours would be fine with me. My own favorite, and a man who would also be hard to impugn, except by antifa, SNL, and THIS BOARD, is the brave, intelligent and reasonable Rep. Dan Crenshaw.

 

Ashli Babbitt was armed with a mob of at least 25 more insurrectionists that would have followed her through the breech, and attacked everyone in the speakers lobby, had she not been stopped.

The BLM riots and no time posed a threat to our Government by the People, our election's and our way of life. But, the January 6th insurrection attempt AbsaByGodLutely ... DID!

The BLM demonstrations were about, very real and ongoing, police brutality. The "Riot's" or 2020 were instigated by anarchist opportunists that had NOTHING to do with BLM. Which is why VP Harris tried to bail out BLM folk that were wrongfully arrested during the RIOT'S.

There IS a Congressional investigation into January 6th that is being resisted by the Republican side of Congress and tRumpublicans at every turn, rather than being embraced and encouraged at every turn, as good patriots should be.

Whatever the dollar value of the RIOT'S of 2020 or the INSURRECTION of January 6th the danger to the American way of life January 6th posed, cannot be compared to any other threat that has come before in American history.

Those resisting the January 6th investigation and trying to rewrite and obfuscate that day of INFAMY are doing so out of political expedience because they know it will be a death blow to any hopes they have in 2022/2024 if the truth comes out.

 

Meaning you don't know anything. You are just following the crowd. They charged him over a phone text.
They charged over a dozen people with the very same indictment. Thats not how indictments work.

But it gives people like yourself something to post about for the next 4 years, doesn't it. This is a show. A fake show.
If it was real, there would be individual indictments for every single person with different charges for each if there were any intention of getting convictions.

But we will all sit back and watch the lefty clown show attempting to sway American voters as thats all this is.
Just like
The Russia Russia Russia hoax
The Pelosi (Only people I say can be on the insurrection committee) hoax
The Kavanaugh hoax
The Covington Catholic kids hoax
The Trump emoluments clause hoax
The Mueller (I can't make criminal recommendations) hoax
The cop was beaten to death with a fire extinguisher hoax
The insurrection hoax
The Kyle Rittenhouse is a white supremist hoax
The Parents at PTA meetings are Domestic Terrorist hoax
The (we aren't teaching CRT) hoax
The vaccine mandate hoax
The successful Afghanistan evacuation hoax

You act like the left has some kind of credibility with no trial of hundreds of debunked fake claims. I got new for ya.
Real Americans aren't falling for the lefts BS any longer.
You might want to recall what just happened in Virginia, New York, New Jersey, Minneapolis, and Seattle.

After midterms this Biden disaster administration will be castrated for good.

 

I hope you're right. But lots of things can happen in 3 years, some bad for Biden, some maybe not.

 

A hoax is a malicious deception. A lie. Not a prank. lol

Yeah, we all heard Schiff come on every news channel he could muster to CLAIM he had the evidence of Trump conspiring with Russians to overturn the election results.
HOAX

So clear cut that 50 FBI agents, two dozen CIA officials, 14 top Democrat attorneys, 2500 witnesses, and millions of subpoenaed documents couldn't come up with a single criminal recommendation to the Attorney General.
HOAX

Of course you do. Most on the left who only deal with emotions would. But for the rest of us we know a fake when we see it.
She didn't know when it happened
She doesn't know how she got to the party
She didn't know how she got home
She didn't know who picked her up
She didn't know if she walked home or someone picked her up for the 15 mile journey
She didn't know where the house was
She never mentioned it to anyone when it happened
She lied about being afraid to fly
Every witness she has named has denied being at the party under penalty of felony

Even her best friend, Leland Keyser has no idea what she is talking about. Keyser’s attorney put out a statement saying, “Simply put, Ms. Keyser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford.

She refused to turn over her therapy notes she cited as evidence claiming she was discussing Kavanaugh
She has given different accounts of when the decades-old party took place

BUT YOU BELIEVE HER
HOAX

Right. Its fine to accuse him in front of the world as being an alcoholic high school serial rapist but how DARE he fire back at the lies and the fake claims by the lefty idiots who portrayed him as such.
HOAX

 

In front of his wife and young daughters

His detractors are scum.

 

They are the worst of humanity.

 

Seditious and insurrection are related like a baseball and a freight train are related.

 

Trump was, and is, going around the country and spreading the lie that Biden stole the election, one lie among others, about democrats.

That fact has undermined confidence in Democracy for some 65 million persons, and created the juggernaut of rage which erupted on 1/6, and by that fact, Trump has damaged America more than any single person in History.

IF what he is doing is not criminal, it should be.

I do believe, however, he will be eventually indicted and has to answer to his transgressions.

 

People to get wrongfully charged in riot sweeps. **** happens, as they say.

Whatever.

 

What would this criminal statute under which he "should" be charged say, exactly?

Keep in mind the principles of mens rea and criminal intent as you draft it.

For what will he be indicted that is related to the Jan. 6 riot (or colluding with Russia, another of his transgressions)?

Keep in mind also that jurors are randomly selected from a fair cross section of the jurisdiction where the defendant is charged.

 

Riot sweeps? Then you probably shouldn't place yourself in the middle of a riot lest you be charged with, say ... rioting. That's a crime.

Of course, you can always count on Hollywood actors and our Vice President to assist in bailng you out. Unless you were rioting against the wrong thing.

 

I condemn all illegal activity, I support anyone's right to peacefully protest.

IF some riot and cause damage because of police brutality, I will be sympathetic, but if crimes are committed, I support prosecutions and appropriate fines and sentences which factor in all the circumstances. also, they are liable for damages they cause.

Say a rapist, murderer is on trail, and is convicted.

He is handcuffed and escorted to an awaiting Sheriff's vehicle to take him to jail.

Somewhere in the path to the vehicle, the daughter's father emerges, in a flight of rage, attacks the perp, and either kills or severely injures the perp.

Do we exonerate the father?

No, but we factor in the circumstances of the crime at sentencing time, which is what all judges do.

 

The subject under discussion is why the leader of the Oath Keepers was included in the indictment if he wasn't there and, according to the poster, wasn't involved in the planning

I answered that as 'probably for the same reason, or similar reason as Manson was indicted' while correcting him on his misstatement of the fact that the leader of the OK was, indeed, involved in the planning, as I understand it. ( I have to fact check it, though).

Anything else?

 

Mueller stated early on 'criminal charges' for the Prez were off the table per the OLC memo

Mueller's referrals hooked a lot of big fish.

I expect that the AG will eventually indict the president.

However, if he doesn't, I accept that that is, indeed, possible, with a guy like Garland.