EU threatens banning Twitter after Elon Musk buys it

Well, we know who ISN'T supporting free speech. The global Left sure feels threatened by the free exchange of ideas.

https://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=htt...ZIgaQZqTCGkJdW6CZVWVn6m9s55Jz8jXwFIuYynWOh6Zs

 

Got a source that isn't some silly agitprop posted to Fakebook?

 

They want to ban Elon before he bans them. He's going to own the Mars space ferry business if left unchecked.

 

related thread: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...companies-like-google.578603/#post-1073407380

The European Union is putting up a giant "wall" around the continent to be able to block big tech websites (Twitter and Google) that don't confirm to their laws and implement censorship.

This is the type of fascist thing China has done.

Free speech under attack.

 

Elon should host Twitter in the US and only take content down after a court order from a US court. If the rest of the world wants to ban that shows their lack of freedom of speech.

Plenty of ways around their censorship anyway, just use a VPN like the Chinese.

 

Why do people even care about Tweeter? Wokism is deeply ingrained in that company’s culture - Elon Musk will likely kill the company in an attempt to “fix” it, which would probably be the only real benefit the world will see from this deal.

 

The way things are going, the roles could end up reversing. Ch!na could very well end up progressive and open, while Europe becomes a kind of quasi-theocratic/totalitarian state.

 

How is "Wokism" ingrained in Twitter?

 

Thanks for pointing that out

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/busines...ens-ban-twitter-elon-musk-breaks-hate-speech/

 

Such a thing sounds not far off in the future of these here United States!

 

This is as much of it as I am allowed to read:

Elon Musk has attacked an “extreme antibody reaction from those who fear free speech” after Brussels regulators threatened to ban Twitter if it violates social media rules in the wake of his $44bn (£35bn) takeover....​

However, this one is available in full:

https://biz.crast.net/brussels-threatens-to-ban-twitter-if-elon-musk-breaks-hate-speech-rules/

Seems to be a decently informative take without the bias and myopia:

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EU economist Thierry Breton said: “Whether it’s cars or social media, any company operating in Europe needs to comply with our rules. Mr. Musk knows this very well.”

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Mr Breton, the EU commissioner for the internal market, told the Financial Times that if Twitter “doesn’t comply with our law, there are sanctions – 6 pc of revenue and, if they continue, banned from operating in Europe”. Are being given”.

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Neil Campling, an analyst at Mirabaud Equity Research, said that Mr Musk’s outspoken commitment to free speech on Twitter was “okay in theory, but the reality is very different – the problem with all networks is that they are open to propaganda, are open to abuse, open to prejudice, and very difficult to control”.​

 

In other words, force private social media platforms to implement censorship against free speech, on behalf of the EU government.

Anyone who claims this is merely about "requiring companies to follow the rules" is being disingenuous and dishonest. This is about censorship of free speech on the internet. Something many of those on the Left seem to love.

So in other words, a great internet fire wall, like the type China has already put in place.
The internet in the EU will not be free and open to the rest of the world, since they will be banning websites that don't implement censorship or say the wrong things.

Isn't it interesting that EU officials specifically brought this up after Elon Musk pledged to remove censorship from Twitter? It's almost as if those EU officials specifically feared what Elon Musk would do.

 

Tic Tok certainly seems to be anything goes approach to content.

 

While I do not like the idea of restricting free speech in any way, Russia has demonstrated to the whole world that a foreign power can brainwash your country’s population to such a level that it can become a national security issue.
Just to play the devils advocate, if an EU country can legally ban Russian RT, why can’t they ban or limit platforms from other countries, like American tweeter? I think in the future each country or world region will have its own social media and we might see the emergence of some umbrella platform that would allow people to access their social media profiles from one spot. I remember seeing similar software for chats years ago when ICQ, AOL Messenger, and other similar chat platforms could be managed from one software.

 

Why are all the conservatives so upset that somebody might ban hate speech? I don't notice leftists being upset over the idea. One would almost think conservative ideologies were based on hate and found its promulgation/advocacy beneficial to them

 

What exactly constitutes "hate speech" in the EU? Interesting question, here is their law if not in full, mostly in the described areas...

https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/default/files/code_of_conduct_hate_speech_en.pdf

There are a lot of contradictory statements of law here. ie, the conflict between "free expression" and what actually constitutes "hate speech" with is generally confined to racist or xenophobic, but there are other qualifiers as well. Interesting read, and from the content of the actual law, lots of democrats and their posting would seem very at risk given the court findings so far...

Illegal Hate speech is defined in EU law (1) as the public incitement to violence or hatred on the basis of certain characteristics, including race, colour, religion, descent and national or ethnic origin. While the Framework Decision on combatting racism and xenophobia covers only racist and xenophobic speech, the majority of Member States have extended their national laws to other grounds such as sexual orientation, gender identity and disability.

Which seems to conflict with this part...

Not every piece of offensive or controversial content will rise to the threshold of illegality. As the European Court of Human Rights has stated, ‘freedom of expression ... is applicable not only to “information” or “ideas” that are favourably received or regarded as inoffensive or as a matter of indifference, but also to those that offend, shock or disturb the State or any sector of the population’. The IT Companies and the European Commission also stress within the code, the need to defend the right to freedom of expression. The assessment of what constitute illegal hate speech includes taking into account factors such as the purpose and context of the expression. The term ‘I hate you’ would not appear to qualify as illegal hate speech, unless coupled with other statements relating to for example the threat of violence and making reference to certain characteristics, including race, colour, religion, descent and national or ethnic origin.

As with most things EU related, its " complicated" on purpose. Lots of billable hours for the legions of lawyers that will have to be employed to nanny these restrictions...

I doubt Elon will have any difficulty with Twitter as the current laws are already enforceable. Whatever hate is already there is not being removed by twitter, and twitter isn't being actively pursued. I see a lot of histrionics here....

 

I suppose it comes down to who defines what hate speech is. For example, content critical of democrats and their policy might be considered "hate speech" and banned. But you're ok with that, right?

 

The fastest way to bring down a dictatorship
is to force it to act like one where everyone can see it !

 

Because we know it will be liberals who define what is hate speech. You know, saying that girl winning all those swim meets is a guy, is defined has hate speech against all transgenders.

 

Nah. All he needs are some good captains hiring down the chain.

 

I enjoy that they call it "hate speech", which is just a reflection of their own thinking....hence the name they refer to it as.

 

Please stop posting hate speech.

Your comments are harmful to those of us who feel marginalized by your comments.

Please respect our truths.

 

What truths are those?

 

Please....that's a microaggression.....now I'm feeling even more marginalized.

 

Then make posts where you discuss hate speech with liberals and come to a clear definition. After that you can campaign to make that meaning the accepted one.

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