Patriot front being rounded up and arrested in Idaho

I for one am glad they were arrested. I can't figure out how they avoided it this long anyway. Once these guys are fingerprinted and have mugshots posted, we'll have a good idea of who they are.

 

That's a good point.

 

Really? That sounds like a good story. What are the details?

 

That’s not a crime though is it? Crime of thought? They haven’t rioted yet and if this is a law why aren’t all of BLM in bars

 

Arraigned on Monday according to one of the news articles, so they will be cooling their heels in jail for the weekend.

 

That doesn't make sense. Transporting people in U Haul trucks is a safety issue, so I don't see how they would just let people go ahead and do it.

 

It may be a crime in Idaho.

 

What violence did they commit?

 

Well I’ll be damned… it sure is.

https://legislature.idaho.gov/statutesrules/idstat/title18/t18ch17/sect18-1701/

weird, I’ve never heard of a law that punishes so easily. But looks like it done some good.

 

Inciting rioting is a crime in Florida, which sounds like a close cousin of conspiring to riot. Neither requires anyone to actually riot.

 

Lol…probably the same idiots that were protesting against covid masks last month.

 

A. That's bullshit'

B. Now we know.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/11/us/3...cy-to-riot-near-idaho-pride-parade/index.html

 

Yeah, its called public information.

 

Violence (actual or planned) is not a factor in determining whether rioting is a felony or misdemeanor. Rioting is a felony if - and only if - it involves penal facilities, hostages or damage over $500. In all other cases - absent these conditions - it's a misdemeanor. Thus the fact that it's charged as a misdemeanor does not reflect any assessment of violent intent. It simply means that the conditions for charging as a felony were absent.

https://legislature.idaho.gov/statutesrules/idstat/title18/t18ch64/sect18-6402/

 

Homegrown terrorists, how sad for America.

 

That’s what I said.

I said that the documents clearly didn’t indicate they were planning to be violent because if they were they would have been hit with conspiracy to commit some sort of violent crime and not conspiracy to commit a misdemeanor riot.

 

You mean white supremacists right?

 

It’s actually there.

https://legislature.idaho.gov/statutesrules/idstat/title18/t18ch17/sect18-1701/

I don’t agree with it but it’s there. I wonder why no BLM people were arrested on this premise. Black privilege I suppose.

 

No, what I said isn't what you said. You said the fact they were charged as a misdemeanor means the documents didn't indicate that they were going to be violent. I have just shown you that that that is not the case. Charging as a misdemeanor simply reflects the absence of the three cited grounds to charge as a felony.

What's more, a misdemeanor rioting charge does not indicate the absence of actual or planned violence. Nor would it preclude, where required, additional charges relating to violent actions. In other words, it's not necessary to choose between crimes.

 

The group, Patriot Front, got off with a handslap, a misdemeanor. Looks to me that thirtyone of them were charged correctly; conspiracy to riot. They were found to have with them "riot gear"; one smoke grenade, shin guards and shields.
The cops did a good job stopping what was to come.

 

There are lots of things that were safety issues that protesters have gotten away with over the last few years. For example, blocking traffic is a safety issue (indeed, protesters have been killed doing this very thing), but the police have let them go ahead and do it anyways, in multiple jurisdictions.

 

Conspiracy involves 2 or more people planning to commit any crime with an overt act.

https://legislature.idaho.gov/statutesrules/idstat/title18/t18ch17/sect18-1701/

 

Der Trumpenfuhrer

 

Staged political theatre.

 

And it isn't, as I said, instantaneous.

Deal with it.