Why don't we admit the obvious and split the country into two?

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  1. Colombine

    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I like the idea, I'm just too old to see it happen :)
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OK but Border control policies would be entirely up to you post-split.
     
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    Secession because you're sick of the arguing?

    You're on a political forum.

    The truth is, this decision is an actual compromise in effect. Every State gets to make it's own decision on abortion. I don't understand this secession idea getting strange new respect on the left for a decision that still allows you to vacuum out as many fetuses as you want. If any court decision is a win/win it's this one.
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But it's not just this decision.

    McConnell hasn't dismissed a Federal ban that would apply to all states.

    Thomas's concurring opinion has suggested the possibility of all decisions relating to substantive due process: same-sex marriage (even relationships), contraception, even his own interracial marriage could potentially come in to question depending on who's heeding his words. I'd rather people living in whichever country I choose would be protected for sure from those eventualities. As it stands they're not. That's pretty stressful and unnecessary for a lot of folks.
     
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    Why dont both sides just be honest, stop making up stuff about why whatever it is, is
    the fault of someone else, decide on what the US stands for and stop throwing snowballs.
    Honestly if it werent so dangerous it would be a sitcom or a new game in the playground.
     
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    McConnell also has not dismissed a federal ban on swimming pools
     
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    no more than what was done to the cherokee, the cheyenne, the sioux, the palastinians, and millions of inconveniently located people since genesis.

    i have a better idea. these so called "conservative" savages can become civilized or we should turn the old wal marts into reservations "jade helm" style. as long as they are supplied with cheaply made chinese consumer products and plenty of ammunition ........
     
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    Well I wouldn't worry about McConnell. He also promised to end Obamacare "root and branch." I'm still waiting for him to get his gardening tools out. However a federal ban on abortion would be one that would interfere with your State. However we're not there and likely will never be. All those other issues I've addressed in other threads, and the odds of a "case or controversy" coming before the SC on those issues is almost zero. But even if they did, again, it wouldn't effect your state. It would just allow each state to be free to choose.
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He wasn't specifically asked about a Federal ban on swimming pools.
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm honestly not trying to antagonize anyone. I'm just trying to find a way for everybody to get what that want and live in a place where others share their values and where their rights won't come under attack from those who don't.
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'd like those choices to be codified so people don't feel they're living on a knife edge all the time.
     
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    No need to split the country. Everyone just needs to honor the decisions by the SCOTUS.
     
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    do you want to turn new york into the next ukraine? virginia into syria? these are not the kind of people who will sit peacefully by the campfire and sing kum ba ya.
     
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    How about we give more of the issues to the PEOPLE to decide?

    It would also help if the left would learn how to lose.
     
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    Hahaha! New York will do as it is told. Anyone don't like it then they can leave.
     
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    And you know how that was done to the Cherokee right? At the barrel of a gun and that's the only way it would happen again. And it's not and it should not

    So this entire idea is nothing but fantasy. There's not going to be a civil war there's not going to be a division of the country.

    Just because you people didn't get your way on a couple of hot button issues doesn't mean you get to split the country
     
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    Because I imagine the red states don't want to immediately become something less than a First World nation.
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But what if those decisions irrevocably split the country by their very nature.

    Wouldn't you like to live in a country where you wouldn't be affected by something like that?
     
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    That's another argument for another day but, so far we haven't attacked Canada and they're as close as can be.
     
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    And if it wasn't for us you would be speaking German. So just sit this one out on the cafe patio smoking cigarettes and sipping lattes will you?
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well people could choose their new passports before the split.
     
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    The left needs to learn how to lose.

    The US split before because Democrats did not get their way. How did that work out?
     
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    It is a pretty stupid idea that is not going to happen.
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Honestly, that's not why I created the thread. I'd genuinely like to see everybody on both sides get to live how they want.
     
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    Everything starts with an idea. Wouldn't you be happier in country X than country Y?
     

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