Why don't we admit the obvious and split the country into two?

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  1. Colombine

    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It seems to me we've reached an irretrievable political split in the USA so why not make that split a literal one and make two brand new countries?

    We could call them the Assembled States of America and the New Republic of America or something like that.

    One could be pro-choice and have limited access to weapons, some kind of universal healthcare, respected rights for LGBTQ people. The usual stuff, kind of like Canada I suppose.

    The other could have anti-abortion laws, unlimited access to weapons, no state-sponsored or supported healthcare system. No rights for the LGBT community.

    We're almost there already so why not make it a physical reality.

    We could give all current US citizens six or twelve months to make up their minds which new country they and their minors and dependents would like to be a citizen of. On segregation you'd get a new passport and that would be that.

    You could maybe visit each country on some kind of reciprocal arrangement but if you want to switch from one to another you'd go through the same visa, green card, citizenship process just like anyone coming from a foreign country now.

    Wouldn't that just make everyone a lot happier and put an end to this endless spiral of bickering and resentment we seem to be trapped in?
     
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    Another Lefty calling for splitting up America..... The same people call the Confederacy traitors for going about the same thing.

    And since it's your idea you could be called the Confederate States of the former nation of America
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    And just like I pointed out in the other thread the reason why those cockamamie idea will never work is well I'll just pick one.....

    You have families with homesteads that have been in their family for generations that own hundreds if not thousands of acres of property.

    Do you think they're going to just agree to uproot and take whatever property this fantasy government of yours would choose to dole out to them in exchange?
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No it's not about lefties and righties it's about everybody getting what they want. Can't you see that?

    If you don't like "lefties" you can get to live in your own country where there aren't any.

    It seems to me that's what everybody really wants so why not make it a reality?
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why stop at 2 countries?

    The so-called Anti-Federalists didn't.....
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They get a choice. That's kind of the point.
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    I suggest that you write your representatives. You certainly won't be gaining any traction on a relatively obscure internet forum.
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well I'm just offering up an idea. You can add refinements to it if you like?
     
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    Although the idea does sound appealing to have a nation with actual secure borders while the former Confederate States of America could take in all the illegals they could possibly absorb until they go belly up.

    So bring it up for a vote I'm game
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think the traction is gaining without my help. I'm just commenting on it and seeing if people (on both sides) would like to be offered that choice. What's wrong with that?
     
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    In practical terms, what's the difference between what you are proposing and simply doing it via the States. Your state, rather than breaking away to join Canada or whatever, can simply have all the abortions you could ever want. You already can do that now, so why break up the country when you can already do what you want on that issue?
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    See, we're starting to agree on something so it's obviously not that terrible of an idea?
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm just sick of all the arguing. I think this solution would go a long way to prevent that.
     
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    They tried this already. The republicans won and the dems had to give up their slaves.

    Jokes aside, if anyone wants to live in Lefty-land, they can just move to Los Angeles or other similar locations. Republicans have no voice here!
     
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    Oh and by the way you get to take all of your precious illegal immigrants with you. All 20 million or so of them
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Instead of making this about lefties and righties, why not take the idea at face value and try to see how it might make everybody, on both sides of the isle a lot happier and more content?

    It's entirely voluntary. You would get to choose.
     
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    Let’s call one The peoples communist republic. We can call the other one Paradise.
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    See you're doing exactly what I (and I suspect millions of others) are sick of and trying to move on from. Your pejorative use of the word "your" is a prime example.

    If you don't like me or whatever you perceive I represent, why not just have done with me and my "type"?

    It seems we're heading in that direction anyway so why not make the split a timely and amicable one?
     
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    Might as well go full blown confederacy.

    I'd be down with abolishing the federal government...
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can call it whatever you want. That's the point you get a choice. What's wrong with that?
     
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    I hear you. Personally, I would rather reduce government to a manageable size and have no unnecessary interference in our lives. Gay married couples can have guns, weed, and abortions if they want!
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks. I applaud you for at least trying.
     
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    i don’t like it because both of the new countries would end up being extreme in one direction or the other. Both leftist and rightist policies suck when taken in their entirety. Let’s keep the country United, vote every manipulative turd of a politician out of office and vote in a new batch, destroy the 2 party system, and finally get some reason and compromise back into government.
     
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    OMFG!!!

    That would be so....*GASP!*.....libertarian.....

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    I do not even know you personally so I don't know if I would like you or not. A few of my friends are Democrats it does not mean that I do not like them I just don't agree with their choices

    What I do not like is the policies that you vote for. If we're going to do this divorce there must be terms and conditions. The Democrats are the ones who push for illegal immigration so they get to keep them
     
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