Why Diversity is Killing Us

But the fear is not irrational. New Yorkers are afraid to use the subways because of the increase in violence there. Is that irrational?

 

Wrong, not ALL fear is irrational.

 

Fine. Now all you have to do is demonstrate that conservative fears are irrational. Pick one and have at it.

 

I already did.

 

Once again.
I did NOT say you should be responsible for history.
I SAID you should acknowledge it and NOT accusing those who do of self loathing.
Please be sure you understand what I have just written now I have repeated it tlhree times.
Do you understand the difference between acknowledging and being responsible for?

 

It is better if they don't acknowledge it. Otherwise there will be demands for reparations.

 

I never mentioned race.
You did.
My issue was cultural replacement.

The rest of your sommation is a répétition of your utter misunderstandings of the difference between acknowledging something and being responsible for.
It also completelycomits your accusation that those who blame white people are self hating. I havent forgotten your assertion even if you prefer to.
And I do not appreciate your poor attempt to move that into yet again a boring trite run through of right wing mythology unpacked at any time you need another snowball.
I prefer that you remain on topic and understand English vocabulary.
Acknowledging white mistakes is NOT SELF HATRED.
So stop framing your replies as if they were the same and then going into répétitions about "I am not responsible".
I never said you were!
I said those who recognise and acknowledge white behaviour are NOT self hating.
Now do I have to repeat it again or is the flicketing light of understanding about what ocam talking about beginning to illuminate your haze?
I object to your calling those who acknowledge white mistakes "self hating"
I quoted you your post in which you did that and I replied to it precisely.
You OTOH go deep brain for, get lostxaround China and Japan, forget your North from your South because you start to argue something completely different and end up with some summary of nothing I said at all.
Once again...people are not self hating when they acknowledge mistakes.
Which BTW they have repeatedly paid for, acknowledge and given spécial favours to.
So you can stop trying to force me into one of your right wing molds of "how to reply to a discussion about white history with a liberal".
I have seen the same théâtre played out dozens of times.
Thanks but I am not interested in playing your foil.




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There have been à lot of réparations both in money, aid, spécial immigration status, France has representatives from 5 old colonies sitting in the national parliament, and military protection.
The UK has the Comminwealth which does the same thing in principle if not in détail.
And no. Neither the British or the French hate themselves or their own race

 

The Great Teplacement Theory.
Utterly irrational.

 

What's irrational about it? The US was 90% White in the '50s and is 60% today. Figures don't lie.

 

The right wing thought that it is important or some négative demographic.
That is irrational.
In fact the USA has been the mostxsuccessful melting pot invthe world.
You used to be proud of it. Today you create fear of the non white non Western Christian ingrédient.
If you look at the more complète figures youcwill ser à huge majority of western whites and the rest split into a dozen different cultures. How on earth will one "replace" you??
Have you forgotten that the world is not culturally divided into WASPS opposed to everyone else.
I very much doubt if carribeans or west indians or mexicans or Jews or buddhists or Chinese or muslims will impose themselves on you...and frankly can't envisage à Grand Alliance between them.
So what are you worried about?

 

And that's the whole problem, right there

Throughout the vast majority of human history Europe, the cultural hearth of the white race, was a cultural, geographic and technical backwater, an insignificant appendage on the much larger Asian landmass.The diverse races of the the world do NOT live in this constant state of struggle for dominance you seem to think they do. If they did the White race would have been wiped out millenia gone.

 

The US was a melting pot of closely related cultures, all derived from Christian, Roman and Greek roots.

What you doubt and can't envisage is not an argument that my perspective is irrational.

The assault on Western Culture is obvious: statues of Western cultural heroes defaced or destroyed. The demands to "decolonize" the curriculum by removing Western classics and replacing them with non-Western texts. The invention of "Whiteness" as a category to be deconstructed and eliminated.

Fortunately those other races were fighting among themselves and didn't have time to conquer Europe.

 

This is my last response to this nonsense.

1. I have never failed to recognize or acknowledge past sins by people on this planet who happened to be white. You keep repeating that lie. If all you are trying to do is have me admit that slavery and colonization happened I have never denied that they did happen and never made excuses for them. Your entire thesis is grounded in bullcrap!

What I will not do is take responsibility for something I had nothing to with. I have no moral culpability for these things at all.

2. My views are not right wing. They are normal.

3. Racialization is claiming that I should feel like crap because some people did bad things and just happen to be white like I am. So yes totally racial.

4. The comparison to atrocities by other races and cultures was explained so a 5 year old can understand. White guilt libos only care about bad things white people do. Even slavery going on in the world today, slavery of blacks in Sudan is of no concern to you because there are no white people to blame.

 

Remember the Rwandan civil war?



The Clinton administration did nothing. A few thousand marines could have saved half a million lives but Clinton did not care and his administration pretended it did not happen. No white people to blame.

If it was white people slaughtering those Tutsis this would have been of massive importance. A bunch of black Africans killing each other? Who cares?

 

It seems I hit the conservative nail on the head. Their particular fears, apart from normal everyday fears, are irrational and unjustified. Conservatives at one time fought the mixing of the races, school integration, women's and Black equal rights, gay marriage, should I go on? The fear of change and loss of the status quo drove the resistance. That resistance was unjustified and irrational. Were conservatives hurt in anyway with those changes? Most probably now agree they were needed steps in the evolution of a more just society.

 

School integration led to White flight and the destruction of once fine cities like Detroit, Newark, Baltimore. Gay marriage has led to the plague of transgenderism and the mutilation of children. Before woman's lib a middle class family could be supported by a single paycheck but now two are required.

I find all of these developments to have created a worse society.

 

Some free education for you @edna kawabata
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/cultural-marxism-in-the-us.601310/

I’ve nothing against third-world cultures, I chose to live and work in developing countries for many years. I don’t just believe in Cultural Marxism, commonly referred to as identity politics, I know what it is when I see it. I haven’t mentioned Jews, freemasons or Qanon because I’m not right wing and they’re not involved in identity politics. Soros is not everywhere, but his NGO ‘Open Society’ is.

Remember Obama’s visit to his roots in Kenya in 2009? Even the Africans told him to leave his homosexuality views back in the US. Outside the west your Cultural Marxist views are seen as weird and you don’t even know what it is.

You’re obviously from the US and so believe everyone is either left or right. Have you ever thought about a middle way that gets back to reality and realizes both sides have something to offer? It was very fashionable only 20 years ago before you fanatics took over and tried to socially engineer a utopia using minority sub-cultures.

I’ve said repeatedly I don’t do partisan politics. Even a thread on China explaining its economic growth draws in the hard core gullible left, presumably because there were no transsexuals or blacks involved. I don’t support Trump, or the Proud Boys, or the prosperity gospel evangelists …

I’m one of the silent majority having their say. Here’s the bottom line. White Christian males (the ones you hate) built western civilization and gave you the freedoms you now have, not men with beards in dresses, pot smokers, or cancel culture ‘woke’ black radicals and their knee bending supporters.

This is the result of Cultural Marxism, this is what you’re cheering for


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“The roots of liberalism – and its associated madness – can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind. When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious” – Rossiter, L, H, The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness, 2006.

 

FFS
I am objecting to your pseudo psychologial attack on those citizens who admit that historically white people have attacked, conquered, controlled and changed the culture of half the globe.
I am objecting to your labelling them as self loathing.

I am not interested in your twisted extension of the original point I made.
I am not intetested in your delving into race in order to justify some deep psychological fault in those who dont vote your way.
Ans I am not interested in your swing9ng from branch to branch to divert your présence

You said it.
I objectif that when white people acknowledge their mistakes they are full of self loathing.
Your right wing trope is destroyed.
End of.

 

What mistakes are those? The world should be grateful it has such marvelous people on it.

 

No

When eastern asian migrants went to the US to work on the railways. No one ran around the farmyard shouting about a cultural takeover.
Ditto when post WW2 Jewish refugees filled the West Coast of the USA .
If race and colour now make a difference it is because you worry about race and colour. You lump those who are not WASP in the same catégories...aliens.
So when white people become the minority, just which of all the other cultures will fominate? Because non white people are culturally very different.
This is why the conspiracy theory is nonsense. Just what singular culture is going to dominate historically rooted WASP culture?
The myth is spoken to create fear and at times loathing of "the other". After à mère 300 years your founding principles will not be moved.
The motivational threat is unsubstantiated.

The Puritan ideology still runs deep..

 

I celebrate marvellous people regardless of origin, skin colour or cultural expectations.
Is the USA so weak that it worried about knots of different cultures settling into its géography?
I can tell you that there is a rumbling of discontent about American culture bringing fast food, and cheap clothing to dominate global Markets. If you acknowledge this strong influence across the world , are you self loathing?

 

You referred to those who acknowledge mistakes as self hâters
You are now admitting white cultural mistakes.
Does that then place you as a self hâter?

 

It just so happens the marvelous people are all White

Only if you think there is something wrong about fast food and cheap clothing.

 

What culture is going to take over? A great question that goes to the heart of the OP. Cultural Marxists hope to take over and institute a Cultural Revolution as was seen in China.