High gas prices worth it for ‘future of liberal world order’ Biden adviser says.

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  1. Polydectes

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    yeah but the highest production levels we've had in our history was during Trump's administration it was down because we were in a pandemic.

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    Why not compare to the last pre shut down at 13k? Feb 2019? Wouldn't that be the logical level today? The reason negotiated and threatened OPEC is because they ran the price of oil to $0.00 a barrel, obviously trying to destroy the US oil industry, which had become a net exporter, you know this. OfCourse, they caved, and it went to $30 a barrel. Perfect situation, gas prices stayed consistent, and we were pumping more and were oil independant. Now we're begging countries like Venezuela, Iran and even OPEC and we have NO BULLETS. You know the one's that produce the world's dirtiest oil with little to no regulations.

    https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WCRFPUS2&f=W
     
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    Trump caring for himself got results, Biden pooping and falling off his bike has screwed things up for Anerica. But the voters reap what they sow.
     
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    So you feel Biden is responsible for the massive decline that happened under trump? How does that make sense to you?

    I wish you people would stop saying we are or were ever oil independent. We do not use the oil we produce in this country. We import it for refining. We also are not oil independent if the president is having to beg enemy foreign nations to cut supply.
     
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    It's denial and a history re-write, works well for the fascist crowd.
     
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    So you think biden bear's zero responsibility on gas right?

    His fees and regulation on domestic oral production have really put a damper on it.
     
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    what results? tax cuts for the rich?
     
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    foreign oil supply is causing this issue
     
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    Biden never said that
     
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    Well, if you haven't been looking at the news over the years, there's no hope.
     
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    so you got nothing? what other signature bills did Trump pass?
     
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    Because the Left fought Trump on making America self energy reliant. You reap what you sow.
     
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    Nothing that any GOP President couldn't have accomplished. They also act like think tanks picking potential court nominees for him was a stroke of genius on Trump's part, the lazy bastard.
     
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    Good grief :rolleyes:

    Are you wanting me to start researching everything to do with the economy, gas prices etc.. over the Trump years v Biden? :roflol:

    Heavens forbid.
     
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    There's no such thing. Petroleum is a globally traded commodity; it doesn't stay at home, and a president can't make that happen.
     
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    Yes, please.
     
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    I gave him credit for take cuts for the rich, give me one other signature bill he passed, were they so lame you have to look them up, can't just remember them?
     
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    Actually, neither did Brian Deese.... I finally put my protective gloves on and clicked on a Fox News link and nobody says the high prices are "worth" anything.

    The headline is typical bullshit...

    Here SEEMS to be the line that twisted the MAGA panties more than usual...

    "What you heard from the president today was a clear articulation of the stakes. This is about the future of the liberal world order, and we have to stand firm."

    Anybody who disagrees with that statement, that standing up to Russia at this point is both necessary and is likely to cause issues, is clearly a Russian synthesizer....
     
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    The green dye that gave all of this and starting to fade.

    This whole thing is an idea that we need a Greener future. The people talk about electric cars is greener because they don't have any emissions which isn't true. A electric vehicle with the same ranges a gas-powered vehicle produces far more carbon dioxide to make what they're doing is they're putting a box around the car when the box should be around the planet. It's some 440,000 miles you have to drive an electric car with a 400 mi range like a gas car has before it starts offsetting the carbon and they're just not going to last that long. Batteries very rarely last that long.

    It's not about green because an electric car is far more detrimental to the environment than even a brand new Corvette. You get more use out of the Corvette and producing it produces far less CO2 and then there's also the disposal which doesn't include having to deal with toxic batteries. Also a Corvette produces less CO2 than a horse.

    I think this like most of the things the left does is just an attack on tradition. They want to feel sophisticated for driving around in their archaic electric cars and look down on the rest of us plebeians. The problem they're running into nobody cares about this we're not all in high school anymore.
     
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    One... First Step Act.... Not sure how that passed the "the cruelty is the point" litmus test, but it did....
     

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