High gas prices worth it for ‘future of liberal world order’ Biden adviser says.

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  1. FreshAir

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    we have plenty of oil, the Trump lie was that American oil would be cheaper....
     
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    that one was a bipartisan bill, never heard Trump pushing for it though, so not sure if you would call that a signature bill
     
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    Oh, then by that definition, None....

    Sorry MAGAs, I tried.....
     
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    Well, you are going to be disappointed. You do some research at your end with the Dems fighting against the oil companies getting government help because of COVID. Look at the pipeline fiascos on the Dem parts too. Check out inflation gas prices, look at fighting against making America a manufacturing country again. The list goes on and on and on.

    If you guys are pleading amnesia, that's your problem. You're probably best off looking at the threads over the years on here, I'm sure you all no doubt took part in them.

    I assume the Lefties sent the stimulus cheques back, not. A number of companies passed down the tax cuts in the form of bonuses. And I suppose those who are whinging about the rich don't have the brains to have got into that group. Sour grapes by the sounds of it.
     
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    People pleading amnesia can jog on.
     
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    made me think though, in 2020, the right was attacking the left for releasing prisoners, wonder how many of those released were from this bill that Trump signed

    Trump released Terrorists prisoners overseas too

    "Top Taliban leaders are among the 5000 that Trump released last year over everyone's objections"

    but we're getting off-topic

    https://www.alternet.org/2021/08/trump-taliban/
     
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  7. Nonnie

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    Even Bezos spoke out against Biden's anti oil rhetoric. Are you from America? You seem quite void of America's news, state of affairs etc..
     
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    yep, I am American and what I said was true, are you American, what did you disagree with exactly?
     
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    In 2020, the "left" was not releasing anybody, cause we were still on MAGA time...
     
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    I'm British. Have you been aware of job rates, employment levels, currency strength, inflation rates etc.. over Trump's presidency and now Bidens? For an American, you don't sound reassuring, just seems to be spats at Trump. Love him or hate him, his results mopped the floor with Biden, and the Dems fought him every single day before the election, every single day during his presidency, and even to this very day, fought him every single day after his presidency.

    All it is, your comments about Trump are just sour grapes, if he invented a cure for cancer, the Democrats would still have issue with him.

    This debate is simply rabbiting on due to the Lefts TDS.
     
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    I think it's the Trump Kool-Aid
     
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    I like results. I like results being delivered. I would like the captain of the Titanic to have been a Trump character that bollocked the staff into avoiding the iceberg, than sink with an Obama captain because Fine Words Butter No Parsnips. "Well, we're sinking guys, but what a bloody good chap Obama captain was"
     
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    I still think it's funny that after saying that Trump never took responsibility for anything, these lefties are blaming absolutely everyone else but themselves.
     
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    Trump - lol

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    Let us start with something else, that I think common sense dictates: Biden's actions, in the recent past. Because, if it was truly his desire to "hurt our population into subordination," one might expect some other, clear signs of this, don't you think, before we could have a clear idea, ourselves, that this is the case?

    My theory, is that you just distrust Democrats, and therefore are expecting, and looking for, anything, upon which you can hang your paranoia-- the WAITING is the hardest part (to quote Tom Petty, out of context)-- even if it is a huge, unjustifiable leap, from the "evidence." At least, now, you don't have to sit on pins & needles: you know the evil plot, with which the Dems are afoot.

    But do you? If this was Biden's (numbskull) plan, to make things so hard on people that they would surrender to him (?), instead of just throw him out of office, as would normally be anticipated, under those circumstances-- does this really seem a credible plan, to you?-- one might expect to see earlier signs of his screw- turning; and would certainly NOT expect to find him doing anything, to the degree it could be avoided or at least minimized, to help people-- does that not make sense? But have you already forgotten all the Covid stimulus checks?

    I know this is something that Repubs are now blaming, for inflation, but does it track, logically, that someone who wanted to cripple the people into submission would, when many were at their most vulnerable, having trouble feeding their families, or about to be thrown out in the street, the "evil" genius Biden would do everything he could to save them, and alleviate their dire distress, just so that could lead to a slow eating away at that money, which the President had pushed hard, to send them?

    I think you are smarter than this, when you're not allowing anxiety to be your master.
     
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    Already got one; it was my very next alert, after yours. But, while they are nice to get, "likes" don't necessarily prove much; I see you also got a like for this, IMO, weak response of yours.
     
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    Those COVID checks were not to help people. They were to buy votes. That was one of the major topics in Georgia as well with senate seats. It wasn’t to help a soul, they were designed to buy votes. And it was part of inflation.
     
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    Listen as I play the worlds smallest violin.
     
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    You should listen, since it is for yourself, who you would be playing it, if you were using that expression, correctly (for yourself, if not because the indignant attitude, expressed in your reply, then because poor you doesn't even understand the correct circumstance, in which to play the world's smallest violin).
     
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    Out of curiosity, what the hell is that as your avatar? I don’t get it.
     
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    Looks like a smiley face.
     
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    I (to be frank) doubt it is worth even asking for clarification, but the meaning of your post to me, was shrouded in enigma. It seems, from my reading, to be saying that I sent you the same message, twice. But I see no sign of that, in my "content." So, perhaps you may wish to explain, if it had been any meaning, worth the trouble of clearly relating.
     
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    My goodness your misinformed, Biden literally got sued to issue the permits awarded before Trump left, that delayed months. XL would be on line today literally saving millions and pumping way faster than polluting big rigs are running to TX every day. Biden is the first President to not have a lease sale in the first 12 months of being in office. What did he finally do last week, announced he was having lease sales to help increase production! I could go on and on about EO's but all that really had to be done when prices started going up was announce to the world that he was opening up American leases and relaxing permitting regulations to ensure prices stayed low why America was coming out of the pandemic and inflation was increasing. When Trump did that it drove prices down, hopefully you understand commodities are purchases for the future not today, so speculation means a lot. Instead, he was more interested in his far-left political promises of war on fossil fuel. We lost control to increase supply and the rest of the oil producing world laughed all the way to the bank because they tripled profits almost immediately and already have the dirtiest, cheapest non environmentally friendly drilling practices.
     
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    Though that does not sound so much like friendly curiosity, as it does, someone looking for some non relevant ammunition, to throw at me, when he gets in a bind, over an actual debate topic, I will humor your request. I'm sure that you are not the only one to have wondered about this, and the longer the "mystery," lingers, the greater will be the let- down, to find that it was just a spontaneous creation, so that I could get into the forum's fray (though, at that point, I was not expecting it to be quite so contentious, at least as far as the mode & manner, of that contention.

    So, actually, Overitall has it essentially right, in that it was intended to look like a a froggy face, which I composed out of a slice of whole grain bread, and a couple of uncooked, brown eggs. (More, below).

    While I had not been aiming at a smiling, froggy face, I take your point, that he does seem to be in an upbeat mood.

    Though I had not intended this as anything but a temporary avatar (see above, if you are one who skips to only the response beneath your own quote), I later felt that, if nothing else, it was distinctive. Then, after a time, I felt that some may have connected the writer of my posts, with this image, and so it did not seem to make sense, to change it, and lose that recognition, of any members who might appreciate my posts, for whatever reason.
     
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    the $4.10 or so gas seems to be hovering at around here is an acceptable price going forward for me if there are no more gouging episodes in the next year.
     

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