Philadelphia teens beat 72-year-old man to death with traffic cone <<Moderator's Warning>>

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  1. ShadowX

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    He who is willing to sacrifice freedom for security will receive none and deserves neither.
     
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    Why does every thread by pseudo-cons include a whine about what they assume is NOT reported elsewhere?

    I read about in other sources. It should be obvious that if you only watch FOX, then you only see what they report, and nothing else.

    No murders in Russia and China....? Ok, sounds like a new home for you then.

    Of course the truth is as painful as always, since Russia's murder rate is higher than US.

    And now you blame him for not carrying. He chose to not carry, or maybe he carried, but wasn't able to use it.
     
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    I think we would all definitely know who the racists of all skin tones are instead of having to make accusations and speculations here on PF based on incomplete information and personal anecdotal experience.

    I’m quite sure most of the racism that exists today is manufactured by a few that don’t want racism to fade away. These experiments would expose them as well.

    In the last few years there has been a big increase in intentional support of black owned businesses by woke whites. It would be interesting to see how they would react to being prohibited from patronizing the businesses they have been supporting.

    Honestly, I don’t think any business could survive very long without support from all races. Either way I think it’s a more straightforward honest approach than the endless bickering, stereotyping, and accusations of racism we see here every day. Frankly I’m weary of all races trying to score some kind of points by calling others racist, mostly without any evidence.
     
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  4. Pollycy

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    As usual, you come out with your snide assertions and no data to back anything up. But, if you dig into the matter even slightly you'll see that China's murder rate per 100,000 is a mere fraction of what ours is in the U. S. (.5).

    Russia has a more 'elastic' concept of murder statistics than we do, but even so, the United States has caught up with it in the past two years, and both Russia and the U. S. record ~7 - 7.3 murders per 100,000 population.

    The news stories that I presented were from Fox and the New York Post. Local outlets for the lib-affiliates ran stories, and when you searched in Google to see what the lib-sites had, that's probably what you found....

    As far as 'blaming' the man for "not carrying", you're putting words in my mouth, but not for the first time. I said that if he had had a firearm with him, he might very well be alive today. He didn't -- and he's DEAD. Now! Find fault with THAT if it amuses you....
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't say anything about China, because no one knows their numbers because of censorship.

    You celebrated their low murder rates based on pure assumption (no data), but their rate is higher than US.

    Heck even WaPo and ABC reported it. LOL

    How do you know he didn't have one? Maybe he had one and it was taken from him. Even with a gun a regular 70+ yr old is no match to a dozen gang-bangers.
     
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    In the aftermath of Floyd, there was a call to support Black businesses by White people.. My question at that point was, why weren't they already doing this, if it was so important to them?

    I don't ask what color a business owner is, or their political position, though some will make that information known before you even make it in the door. I am there to buy goods or services with value for my dollar. Businesses trying to make their ownership or political position paramount, is usually a big turn off for me.
     
  7. Pollycy

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    As usual, it doesn't do much good to try to discuss this, or much else, with you. So, you just have a 'nice day', and I assure you that I will, too.

    James Lambert won't, though... because he's dead. We can engage in pointless conjecture about whether he'd be alive today if he'd been armed. You speculate that he was armed (?), but for unknown reasons didn't/couldn't use his weapon...? Well... you have a right to your opinion. :roll: At this point, I'd love to deflect away and reflect on how dismissively you treated the story about the invasion of hordes of 'migrants' approaching the southern border a few weeks ago, and proclaimed I was a "drama queen" for mentioning it... but I'll spare you that....

    [​IMG]. Rest in peace, James Lambert, whether you were armed or not....
     
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    I'm glad you "spared" my by bringing it up, even though it has nothing to do with the topic. You shrieked about the "biggest caravan ever", only to see it disappear in a puff of smoke. Drama queen? Well, if you don't want to look like one, then don't behave like one.
     
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    Oh my!
     
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    All the way from France?
     
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    You've lied in the destroy America thread too. Seems to be a common theme when your arguments are debunked for the unicorn fantasies that they are.
     
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    In France homeschooling has been outlawed. Why is that? I mean, advantage or not, they haven't done it because they care about the kids. They want obedience and no questioning amongst the population. Pixie dusy is a perfect example. Then they're trained to go out and argue with those who understand freedom is not to be taken advantage of.

    You know what they say, "misery loves company!"

    Pixie is, unfortunately, a useful idiot.
     
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    Yep. I have no idea of what “race” I deal with nor do I care. Product and service are important—that’s it. If a business could advertise it does not align with my beliefs that all people should be judged on merit (content of character) I would factor that in as well. But now it’s illegal for a business to let me know that information.

    The uptick in business support is I believe part of the work of those who wish racism to remain relevant. Long term it’s likely to be counterproductive if it’s just emotion and popularity driven.
     
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    The monster caravan dispersed throughout Mexico, and now the hundreds of migrant clusters are invading as we speak: https://thetexan.news/texas-border-county-officials-declare-invasion-call-on-abbott-to-follow-suit/

    But I'm sure you know much better what happens concerning the Texas border than Texans do, just like you knew so much about politics in Colorado ( :lol: ) ... or whether poor, old Mr. James Lambert would still be alive if he had had a firearm to defend himself with.

    It must be exhilarating to have such powers of clairvoyance....
     
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    The armed populace of Switzerland debunks your argument.

    You will run from this too, like the good obedient slave you are.

    LOL, the "captain america" trope again. You tried that in the other thread too.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/destroy-america.601565/page-6#post-1073588558

    Your arguments are juvenile and scant.
     
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    I don't actually know what country Pixie is from, but obviously values the illusion of safety over and resemblance of privacy or freedom. I hope they never have to know the impact of the statement 'when moments count, help is minutes away'.
     
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    Of course. Texans have thousands of spies in Mexico keeping an eye on things. LOL

    Likewise. You pretend to know exactly what would have happened if all the "ifs" and "buts" line up when a lone 70+ yr old goes into battle against a dozen gang-bangers.
     
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    They have military issued rifles, but no ammo. Those rifles are for national defense, not for personal use.

    As for carrying guns for self-defense..that's a no. Its practically impossible to get a carry license in Switzerland.
     
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    It's not true. They have ammo, just that the military doesn't provide them with it after their service.

    I have a cousin who did military service. He has both. He can buy his own ammo at the gun shop.





    "All healthy Swiss men aged between 18 and 34 are obliged to do military service and all are issued with assault rifles or pistols which they are supposed to keep at home.

    Twenty years ago the Swiss militia was a sizeable force of around 600,000 soldiers. Today it is only a third of that size but until recently most former soldiers used to keep their guns after they had completed their military duties, leading to lots of weapons being stored in the attics or cupboards of private Swiss households
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    https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21379912

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    They have them in their home.

    "I do as the army advises and I keep the barrel separately from my pistol," he explains seriously. "I keep the barrel in the basement so if anyone breaks into my apartment and finds the gun, it's useless to them."

    "Target shooting is a popular national sport but many of the firearms in Switzerland are military weapons."
    https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21379912


    National defense is what Pixie dust says we don't need guns for, because Militaries of the world would wipe us out in 5 minutes, according to her.



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    Carry laws may be different, our debate was keeping a gun in the home to protect against invaders. Swiss are allowed to do so.

    In addition, if someone is going to commit a gun crime, mass shooting, they're not really considering the laws are they?

    Swiss have less mass murders for different reasons proving it's not the possession of guns that are the problem.

    By now we all know that this is true.
     
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    Again, the military rifles are NOT for personal use, and they are NOT issued ammo while in service, let alone after it.

    Do civilians own guns? Yes, almost as many as Germans and Austrians, and firearm deaths are also high in Switzerland. If you want to buy a handgun, you need a permit, which has to be renewed every 9 months. Ammo purchases are tracked by the government.
     
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    It does not show how you come to think that he used an AK-47.
    Also, background checks are a federal thing and has nothing to do with Texas. If the feds aren't upholding their own laws, then they need to fix their problem. Adding more laws will do nothing if they can't enforce the ones they already have. You stated that you hated people that post misinformation yet you are really posting a lot of it. It's become quite clear that you don't have the knowledge to have a valued opinion on this topic so I'll just say, have a nice day.
     
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    People are going to think what they want. If I owned a shop and hated green people I’d still sell stuff to them and the green person would never know. The problem comes from discrimination and that would be when I wouldn’t sell something to green people. Does anyone truly believe one race is superior to another? I don’t know because that is the true but long forgotten definition of racism. Do I believe certain races/cultures do certain things better than others. Absolutely, just look at sports.
     
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    Again, they can buy guns and ammo, and I have a family member that has both. Arguing that the military issued ones are not for personal use is a moot point. Target shooting is a thing in Switzerland and obtaining any sort of gun and ammo you want is possible. They do not have mass shootings for reasons other than guns. I am not opposed to better background checks either, but criminals don't typically get their guns legally. This is fact, and they don't abide by laws so they wouldn't care about carry laws if their intention is to kill with a weapon. That would be the same in Switzerland, which once again perfectly illustrates that it's not just the gun that is an issue in these mass shootings. Why do you, assumingly, and others not want to address these pertinent issues?

    That was clear in the video I posted.
     
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    Federal Background checks equates to "non existent" to you?
     
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    "I do as the army advises and I keep the barrel separately from my pistol," he explains seriously. "I keep the barrel in the basement so if anyone breaks into my apartment and finds the gun, it's useless to them."

    Not much use as home defence against intruders then!
     

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