DOJ opposes making public details in Mar-a-Lago search warrant's probable cause affidavit

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  1. flyboy56

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    (CNN)The Justice Department is opposing the release of details in an affidavit that lays out the argument that investigators made to a federal magistrate judge explaining the probable cause it had to search former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate last week.

    In their new filing arguing for some continued secrecy, the Justice Department made clear the seriousness of the ongoing criminal investigation, saying it "implicates highly classified materials."

    "Disclosure of the government's affidavit at this stage would also likely chill future cooperation by witnesses whose assistance may be sought as this investigation progresses, as well as in other high-profile investigations," the Justice Department wrote. "The fact that this investigation implicates highly classified materials further underscores the need to protect the integrity of the investigation and exacerbates the potential harm if information is disclosed to the public prematurely or improperly."

    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/15/...rtment-mar-a-lago-search-affidavit/index.html

    Interesting Garland doesn't want this info out there. The longer he holds this back the more the public will wonder what he is really trying to hide.
     
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    Owing to them some good faith, I can understand not releasing it to the general public but I hope they take up the offer by the Senate Intelligence committee(and it's counterparts in the House Intel committee) to brief them on the status of the investigation. If nothing else, the politicians can be their public spokespersons to calm the masses down during a very uncertain time.
     
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    Yeah because they’re lying corrupt pieces of garbage
     
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    So What?
    The "public" "wonders" about alot of things that they'll never know...
    Big deal...
     
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    I love this freaking clown garland. Gets on tv and basically challenges trump to have transparency and says how transparent the FBI is going to be and then after Trump calls his bluff and demands the warrant be unsealed and the affidavit produced, that punkass Garland refuses to produce the affidavit lol
     
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    Did you see that the lawless FBI stole trump's passport?

    Why Merrick Garland Is Losing the People.

    "Despite Garland’s pious assertions, we know the modus operandi of selective leaking from the career of Andrew McCabe. The disgraced former interim FBI director admitted to lying to federal investigators about his role in leaking to the Wall Street Journal."

    He lied to illicitly damage Trump, during an active FBI investigation, but we are supposed to doubt that they would plant evidence?

    "And the inspector general found McCabe lied on several other occasions about his efforts to leak to and massage the media. At this point, we should assume that “sources tell us” and “according to unnamed sources” are indications that the sources are Justice Department and FBI contacts who were given the green light to manipulate the news by their superiors."

    "Let’s put Garland’s decision to approve the raid on Mar-a-Lago in the context of the past seven years. The Justice Department and FBI in 2016 interfered in a presidential election in two major ways: They exonerated Hillary Clinton’s clearly illegal use of a private server and her destruction of subpoenaed data. The FBI hired Clinton operative Christopher Steele as an informant and gave its “Crossfire Hurricane” imprimatur to the entire Russian collusion hoax, feeding a 2016 left-wing mantra that Trump was a Russian “asset.”'

    They told that lie for years. They continued to submit the Dossier evidence in FISA warrants as verified and corroborated when they knew full well that it was Russian Intelligence is was Hillary, Trump presidential opponent, manufactured and paid for dirt.

    "In 2015, we learned that candidate Hillary Clinton, as Barack Obama’s secretary of state, had emailed classified government materials using her own private server, likely as a way of skirting Freedom of Information Act requirements."

    And then she wiped them, while they were under congressional subpoena and her staff beat her old blackberry's to pieces with hammers.

    "In the thick of the 2016 campaign a year later, FBI Director James Comey reported that Clinton had, in fact, broken the law. Yet he assumed a role of federal attorney that was not his own, deciding Clinton’s wrongdoing should not lead to an indictment."

    Without a Grand Jury, it was never anything more than a White Wash. Jimmy The Fixer.

    "In that improper role, Comey, not U.S. attorneys, declined to hold Clinton accountable. We learned later that Attorney General Loretta Lynch had met secretly on an airport tarmac (“a brief, casual, social meeting”) with Bill Clinton."

    The fix was always in.

    "Somewhere within this tangle of lies (both said they met only to talk about their grandchildren, not about whether the Justice Department would charge Hillary Clinton), we learned: 1) Lynch abdicated her role and simply let Comey play the role of investigator and prosecutor, and 2) Hillary Clinton had “bleached” thousands of emails, some of them under federal subpoena, and destroyed her communication devices and records—all federal felonies."

    These folks casually and nearly as a lifestyle subvert justice and commit felonies.

    "Trump won the election in 2016, but he never controlled the federal government. For 22 months, at a cost of $40 million, Robert Mueller investigated whether Trump had “colluded” with the Russians to take the White House. Ironically, there was ample evidence to show that Hillary Clinton may, in fact, have done exactly that."

    The bottom line is that they beat Trump, and that a massive array of power they have, but, it's very difficult for me to see how Trump is the solution when they beat him so badly, that's why he is not my pick for 2024. These guys must be returned to the control of the Rule of Law. That is our most important task until it is completed.

    Claimed they had probable cause to believe that Melania had nuclear secrets in her drawers? Seriously?

    [​IMG]

    85 days and we can get to work on it.
     
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    Likely would compromise whoever is snitching or that were spying on a third party he was showing this stuff to.
     
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    Oh I’m sure trump wants to know how he got busted. If he’s charged he’ll get all that info then.
     
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    It will rally Trump's base and everyone else who is watching this thinking it could be them. Or you.
     
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    Americans have a right to know. Very important elections are coming in several months. This looks like the same old MO Democrats played during the 2020 election that turned out to be mostly lies. Americans should see this again and not be fooled. As the saying goes, fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
     
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    I wouldn't expect the government to reveal who cooperated in an investigation of organized crime to protect their sources until a trial, and I would expect it to be no different here.

    In fact, I would bet that whomever their sources were would be put in even more danger by revealing them in this circumstance than they would if they were a source against the mafia or international drug rings.

    It's naive and incredibly entitled to think they have to reveal their source before a trial.
     
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    The details can be hidden. We don't need to know names or anything that would give away information that would point to a certain person(s).
     
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    Nobody gives a **** about the person. Redact it. But provide the evidence of a crime that lead to a warrant for a raid on an ex presidents home and prove it wasn’t politically motivated like EVERY person on the planet already knows it is.
     
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    This type of information is NEVER released until a person is charged with a crime.

    It's not going to be released. Trump would love to know what they know and who has been ratting him out, but that is the exact reason this info is never released until the target is charged.

    Trump has already put out half a dozen excuses about why he had classified information.

    If you have more than one explanation, you're lying. It's really simple.
     
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    Providing the evidence can lead to the person who provided it if there's only a certain number of people who would have that information in the first place. They can present that information in the criminal trial if Trump is charged, just like they would if this was an organized crime case. They've already released more information than they normally would during an investigation.
     
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    Wtf are you talking about? The VAST majority of the time search warrants NOR their affidavits are sealed.

    Furthermore they’ve already done the search and recover the documents. There’s nothing to protect. Are you suggesting Trump is going to violently murder the person? You can’t be serious
     
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    Bahahah y’all are acting like we are talking about someone who has committed a load of violence against other people. Not someone who has literally committed NONE. Y’all are a joke lol
     
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    The affidavits are often sealed.
     
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    That's not a response to the content of my post.
     
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    He very well might threaten them. He's done that to others already.
     
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    Not even as REMOTELY as often as they’re not. They must REQUEST for it to be sealed. Otherwise they’re not sealed.

    And the only justifiable reasons to seal it is because you’re still conducting the operation and haven’t done the raid yet or you have JUSTIFIABLE reason r to believe someone’s life is legitimately at risk.
     
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    Yes it is. You’re asserting Trump would love to know who is ratting him out. Implying what? That he’s going to harm them?
     
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    He might threaten them? With what? Physical harm? You can’t be serious right now. Trump can’t fart loudly without the Dems watching his every move. And he’s going to put a hit out on a witness? Give me a freaking break.
     
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    Even y’all don’t believe this BS. Y’all just don’t care cause you want to get trump so badly.
     
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    We know that is Biden's style. Trump had 4 years to go after Clinton but he didn't.
     
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