Gavin Newsom signs bill to keep California's last nuclear energy plant open despite environmentalis

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  1. Jack Hays

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    Texas has the system for which Texans voted. Entirely their business. Meanwhile:
    Will California “Learn” to Avoid Peak Rolling Blackouts?
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    California has reached a balance skewed by false expectations that “green” resources cannot meet. . . .

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    So gd true.
     
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    Don't recall many blackout this summer in Cali, in fact I don't remember any, many warnings though

    Texas grid avoids summer blackouts with $1 billion in extra spending

    Texas' electric grid operator has powered through record demand this summer by paying more to keep higher reserves and rewarding industrial consumers to cut usage, a combination that has added more than $1 billion to power fees.

    The Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT) has set new demand records 11 times this summer and twice asked consumers to turn up their thermostats in a season where demand approached 80,000 megawatts (MW).
    It had forecast peak summer demand earlier this year of 77,733 MW in January.
    https://www.reuters.com/business/en...uts-with-1-billion-extra-spending-2022-08-25/




     
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    Yes, and . . . . ?
     
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    Exactly good job State of Texas, California could take a page out of that playbook but it's going to come from fossil fuels.
     
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    Sure Cali will never match the 700+ dead for Texas's winter storm. Corps have profit above people.
     
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    Stupid California.

    California And New York: Do Not Back Off Your World-Beating Green Energy Schemes!
    September 10, 2022/ Francis Menton

    • Today the Manhattan Contrarian formally calls upon the states of California and New York: Whatever you do, do not back down from your crash program of green energy schemes!

    • The full text of the Manhattan Contrarian official announcement follows:

    • California and New York: It is critical to mankind that you pursue the full extent of your green energy schemes to conclusion as soon as possible and at all costs. If you really believe, as you proclaim, that all-renewable energy is a moral necessity to save the planet from the existential crisis of climate change; if you really believe that energy derived from fossil fuels is dangerous and polluting and is causing dangerous climate change; if you really believe that renewable energy is now less expensive than fossil fuel energy; if you really believe that an all-renewable energy system can actually work to power a modern economy; and if you really believe that all that is needed to get to an all-renewable future is to build enough solar and wind generators to do the job — then you absolutely must see this project through to conclusion and without delay.

    • Now is not the time to go wobbly. You owe it to the world to show everyone how this can be done. This is your moral duty.

    • The context of this plea is that, of the four jurisdictions in the world that are the leaders in the push to 100% green energy — California, New York, the UK, and Germany — two of them — the UK and Germany — are giving strong signals that they are ready to cry “Uncle!” and back off on the plans.
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    Green tech is uniquely corrupt. The entire industry is based on “subsidy farming”. It is a transfer of money from every taxpayer to Democrats’ Green cronies. It’s like the covid money getting stolen because they push it out there and produces nothing.
    The politicians families will get in, ride the stock up, get the phone call and bail before it goes broke.
     
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    Can we tell these nations how dumb they are?



    May 23, 2018

    According to data compiled by the U.S. Energy Information Administration, there are seven countries already at, or very, near 100 percent renewable power: Iceland (100 percent), Paraguay (100), Costa Rica (99), Norway (98.5), Austria (80), Brazil (75), and Denmark (69.4).

    • Ethiopia, Kenya, Namibia, Norway, Tajikistan, and Uruguay are countries currently generating greater than 90% of the electricity they use from renewable energy sources. Some of these countries are working towards running their electric networks entirely from renewable energy.


    Electricity from solar, wind, and water could power the entire world in less than 10 years, leading energy experts say.
    https://www.theweathernetwork.com/e...rgy-could-power-the-world-by-2030-experts-say

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    Fantasy nonsense.

    The Fraud of 100% Renewables, Part I: Countries
    https://4thgeneration.energy › the-fraud-of-100-renewa...


    Jul 14, 2020 — Costa Rica is part of a group of countries which have claimed their 100% renewables status in recent years. Iceland, Paraguay, and Albania ...
     
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    Make America great again's?????

    That doesn't make sense. Make America great again is a slogan not people. And the apostrophe s indicates possessive.

    So the first part of this post you made makes no kind of sense and the second post is meaningless.
     
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    Were you confused by "100 percent renewable power"? Think it meant transportation? Seriously? lol


    Your link'
    " it only refers to countries’ electricity generation, rather than their entire energy consumption for all sectors."
     
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    If it didn't then the claim is meaningless.
     
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    Interesting watching Sweden right now.

    The "right" wing party, Sweden Democrats might possibly gain majority in their Parliament.

    Makes me wonder if there little autistic girl sailing around the world preaching about how people stole her childhood while children in the Congo are forced to mine cobalt for her electric cars battery and cell phone battery has embarrass them.
     
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    Renewables is a buzzword with little meaning.
     
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    You mean you haven't heard of magical fairy power? It uses unicorns and pixies.
     
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    If we only had the most wind generated energy in Texas...

    Oh wait.
     
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    Sorry you're so easily confused then :)
     
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    Texas? Oh right where they CHOSE not to insulate it in the winter because $$$$ is more important than 700+ lives

    Wind turbines in cold environments typically 'winterized'

    In Canada, wind turbines may spend up to 20% of their time weathering winter months — so specialized "cold weather packages" are installed to keep crucial turbine components like the pitch and yaw motors, the gearbox, and battery warm, according to the Canadian government.

    These additions can keep wind turbines going in bone-chillingly cold temperatures, down to -22ºF (-30ºC).
    https://interestingengineering.com/science/wind-turbines-fail-cold-weather

    May 2, 2021
    Researchers say it would cost anywhere between $5 billion and $20 billion to winterize all plants in Texas.

    Gas sellers made $11 billion during Texas winter storm - Fortune

    Aug 24, 2022 — Texas ratepayers hit with $10 billion in new costs for Winter Storm Uri.


    An association of civil engineers estimates the cost of Winter Storm Uri could reach $300 billion. The new report places part of the blame for the storm’s aftermath on a “run to fail” model adopted by energy companies.
    https://www.keranews.org/texas-news...storm-could-reach-300-billion-new-report-says

    Cost of Texas’ 2021 Deep Freeze Justifies Weatherization
    https://www.dallasfed.org/research/economics/2021/0415.aspx

    "roughly 700 Texans actually died from the freeze and lack of power, based on how drastically deaths spiked above average that week when residents went days without electricity in below-freezing temperatures"
    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/texas-winter-storm-power-outage-death-toll




    ARE THEY GOING TO WINTERIZE THEIR SYSTEM? HELL NO


    Texas Lawmakers Passed Changes To Prevent Blackouts. Experts Say They're Not Enough


    That weatherization part of Senate Bill 3 allows regulators to determine which parts of the natural gas supply chain are critical to electricity production and then requires that they be protected from the cold.

    Most agree it is progress. But it only applies to equipment linked directly to power plants. Experts said it ignores the interconnectedness of the gas infrastructure.

    ...He said if there's another big freeze, "whoever has those direct lines into the power plants and winterizes those is going to point upstream and say, 'Well, those upstream people couldn't get us enough gas.' So yeah, it's hard to see how this is going to provide us full coverage."

    The law also includes penalties as low as $5,000 a day for companies that do not winterize. Critics said those fines could cost less than the price of complying with the law.

    Doug Lewin, president of the consulting firm Stoic Climate and Energy, said that "$5,000 for a big oil and gas company, to say it's a rounding error is probably an overstatement."


    https://www.npr.org/2021/06/02/1002...revent-more-blackouts-experts-say-its-not-eno

     
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    Lol.. back in the 2000s, leftists said to save ourselves from the energy crisis, we must conserve our way out while offering no plan to build new power plants.

    Fast forward two decades later, leftists are now saying we can renew our way out of the energy crisis and stop global warming.
     
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    You don't insulate houses here for a northern climate because oddly it's not a northern climate. Insulating houses for that would cause more deaths. Sometimes you lose power in the summer and if homes are insulated to protect against Arctic weather for the 3 days out of the past six centuries we had weather like that they would be ovens for the weather we have all the other time.

    You have to think about reality before you open your mouth.


    Texas is at the same latitude as the Sahara. You don't prepare for Nordic Winters in the Sahara.

    Again think before you speak.
    I believe the last time it got that cold in Texas was in 1899.
    I'm looking make sense to spend that kind of money preparing for weather in Canada.

    Texas isn't in Canada if you didn't know that already.

    That's like trying to teach a Nicaraguan how to build an igloo.
    Or teaching and Eskimo how to keep their pool water from evaporating in the summer.
     
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    Well leftists seem to say government is always the answer. They don't understand they cause most problems.
     
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    Texas 700+ lives lost

    Winter storm blackouts plagued Texas in 2011, too. Recommendations made afterward went unenforced.

    Failing power plants, rolling blackouts and a spike in demand as Texas is hijacked by a harsh February winter snowstorm – this was the scenario exactly a decade ago as blackouts rolled through Texas.

    A post-mortem at the time – including a key finding that state officials recommended but did not mandate winter protections for generating facilities – has renewed relevance as Texas is roiled by a record storm that has left millions without power for at least three days amid plunging temperatures.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ns-lacking-reports-have-suggested/4490501001/
     
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    Historic Texas Snowstorm
    December 20-21, 1929
    Hillsboro's 26-inch snowfall tally certified as all-time 24-hour snowfall record for the state of Texas!

    There have been many ice storms in Texas history. New Year's Eve 1978 was the worst ice storm in North Texas in three decades, producing ice accumulations up to 2 inches thick in a 100-mile-wide swath from just west of Waco to Paris, Texas


    Dallas/Fort Worth's Top-20 Largest Snowfalls on Record.
    Snow Amount Rank Date
    11.20" 1 Feb 11, 2010 (Thu)
    7.80" 2 Jan 15, 1964 (Wed)
    7.50" 3 Feb 17, 1978 (Fri)
    4.70" 4 Nov 13, 1976 (Sat)


    Where does it snow the most in Texas?

    Amarillo

    Situated in the panhandle of Texas, Amarillo averages the highest amount of snowfall per year, coming in around 17.9 inches annually

    2 degrees

    So let's look at the all-time record low temperatures for Austin. The coldest low and overall temperature on record for Camp Mabry in Austin is -2 degrees on Jan. 31, 1949

    Abilene.............9 below zero...set in 1947

    Amarillo...........16 below zero...set in 1899

    Austin..............2 below zero...set in 1949

    Beaumont……..10 degrees......set in 1906

    Brownsville........12 degrees......set in 1899

    Corpus Christi.....11 degrees......set in 1899

    Dallas/Fort Worth....8 below zero...set in 1899

    Del Rio............10 degrees......set in 1989

    El Paso.............8 below zero...set in 1962

    Galveston...........8 degrees..... Set in 1899

    Houston.............5 degrees......set in 1930 and 1940

    Lubbock............17 below zero...set in 1933

    Midland/Odessa.....11 below zero...set in 1985

    San Angelo..........4 below zero...set in 1989

    San Antonio.........0 degrees......set in 1949

    Waco................5 below zero...set in 1949 and 1899

    Wichita Falls......12 below zero...set in 1947
     
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    South Texas experienced frigid temperatures and prolonged hard freezes between Tuesday morning February 1st and Saturday morning February 5th, 2011. A large dome of arctic air plunged southward across South Texas on Tuesday morning February 1st behind a strong cold front. Temperatures plummetted from the 60s and 70s early Tuesday morning into the upper 20s to lowers 30s by Tuesday evening. Arctic high pressure continued to push further south across South Texas between Wednesday February 2nd and Friday February 4th. As a result, widespread record low temperatures occurred between Feb 2 and Feb 5. Most areas averaged between the middle 20s to middle 30s during this entire period. The duration of freezing temperatures for this event was quite remarkable. Although this cold spell was impressive, it ranks well below the cold spells of 1899, 1951, 1983 and 1989. Specifically, the 3-day period ending on February 4th ranks as the 24th coldest for Corpus Christi and the 36th coldest for Victoria. The 3-day period ending on February 3rd was the 26th coldest for the Laredo area.

    https://www.weather.gov/crp/feb2011_icestorm


    Texas 700+ lives lost :sun::sun::sun::sun::sun:$$$$$$$$$$

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