Gavin Newsom signs bill to keep California's last nuclear energy plant open despite environmentalis

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  1. DentalFloss

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    Oh, at the very least since enviroweenies (which today consists of pretty much anyone left of center) have declared any further use of "fossil" fuels past say, next Thursday, as a "catastrophe".

    Take a look at the following picture. What you see is safe, onsite storage of spent nuclear fuel that took a single plant about 2 decades to produce. Given the small footprint, many plants have enough room to store several centuries worth of spent fuel in a manner that is safe from just about anything you can think of (save perhaps a nuclear war, in which case we have much bigger problems to concern ourselves with), that, as you can clearly see, don't even require any sort of protective clothing or likewise to literally stand right next to them on a regular basis.

    The real long-term solution is to finish the Yucca Mountain Nuclear Repository, where such casks can go to die, and there is enough space (at least it was planned for such, before said enviroweenies also got that shut down thanks to Obama). If it is ever deemed necessary, or if something newer and better invented at some far future date when we're all dust in the wind, or worm food, for those who want to be buried (bleh!), then the spent fuel can be removed from the old casks, and replaced into new ones, the newer tech, or maybe they'll even figure out a way to use them as fuel again someday.

    Regardless, you want zero emission power production that has no unwanted side-effects whatsoever, nuclear is the way to go. Aside from having zero emissions, it also doesn't kill birds, require exotic metals from China, and the disposal problem when compared to solar panels is absolutely trivial. You talk about non-environmentally friendly power production? Wait about 20-30 years when all those solar installations being installed today need to be replaced en masse. Then what??

    This is not the 1970s anymore, and not every nuclear plant is Chernobyl just waiting to happen. Hell, even in the 1970s the versions built outside the former Soviet Union were much sounder and safely produced. And America's "worst" nuclear accident, was some 43 or so years ago and to date has resulted in no known injuries or deaths. Of course, anyone old enough to be an adult at that point, even just barely, would be in their mid-60s by now, so they're at the start of the normal life expectancy for humans anyway, at least at the time they were born.

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    We don't insulate our houses here like it's the northern slope and we're not going to.

    Our latitude is the same as the Sahara. You don't build houses in the Sahara like to do in Finland.

    Think before you post.
     
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    What is that once every 15 years you know how many people die in traffic in that period of time?

    People die of exposure because it's really uncommon to have that kind of weather we don't build a windproof houses we don't build volcano proof houses.
     
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    See 22 below is very uncommon the last time it got that cold was in 1899.

    Next thing you'll be wondering is why doesn't Denver plan for tsunamis.

    Lol
     
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    Cool, too bad it didn't go to -22

    WINTER STORM 2021 TEXAS

    Temperatures plummet to 13°F in Houston, 20°F in Galveston and 5°F in College Station. A Winter Storm Watch is issued for a significant ice storm expected Tuesday night.

    The coldest air temperature recorded in San Antonio was 9 degrees on Monday, Feb. 15. That was one of five record low temperatures set during the Big Freeze.

    KEEP UP THE BS
     
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    Right the state put estimates at $100 billion in damages, engineers say it will be up to $300 billion. In the 5 day period alone PRIVATE CORPS made excess $11 billion profits.

    Cost to winterize was estimated $5-$20 billion. Over 700 dead. But yeah don't winterize *shaking head*
     
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    Yep, with no power for millions, which is what the topic is, dodge to insulate housing *shaking head*

    Right wingers tend to not be honest, shocking with 700+ dead right?


    Texas leaders failed to heed warnings that left the state's power grid vulnerable to winter extremes, experts say

    Texas officials knew winter storms could leave the state’s power grid vulnerable, but they left the choice to prepare for harsh weather up to the power companies — many of which opted against the costly upgrades. That, plus a deregulated energy market largely isolated from the rest of the country’s power grid, left the state alone to deal with the crisis, experts said.
    https://www.texastribune.org/2021/02/17/texas-power-grid-failures/
     
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    Yeah I just live here I can't possibly know anything about the weather.
     
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    We shouldn't winterize. We don't really need to as low temps are uncommon here.
     
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    If you don't insulate housing here like it's the northern slope. Because if you did the houses would be ovens in the summer should the car go out if that's more likely.

    They suggest you do a little something about something before you comment on it.
     
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    IT WASN'T THE HOUSING, IT WAS UP TO 47% OF POWER GENERATION WAS DOWN, THANKS TO PRIVATE CORPS PROFITS OVER PEOPLE BS!!!

    Insulating houses make them hot in the summer??? LMAOROG

    Sorry, you need to investigate before you post that garbage
     
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    You don't winterize here we are the same latitude as the Sahara.

    If the power goes out for a couple of days like when a hurricane hits yeah insulating the house makes it hotter cuz your air conditioner is not on.

    If you ever left a cooler out the sunlight the suburb and then going open it expected to be cold in there if there's not any ice in it.

    I know it's thermodynamics but it isn't that complicated
     
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    Yeah, outages twice in 10 years proves that, only 700 dead right? Gawd
     
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    700 people in 10 years do you have any people die every year in traffic?
     
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    Although the southern U.S. is at the same latitude as Algeria (30 degrees) it is not desert.

    Because Algeria gets hit by prevailing western currents which at that latitude tend to carry little moisture!

    Were as the southern USA at that latitude, cities such as New Orleans or Jacksonville that lay right on the 30 parallel,get a totally different flow,often coming from the south or eastern flows which contains a moisture ribbon,which can be extreme during tropical storms or hurricanes! A noted different is the ocean temperature very warm in the American gulf coast,warm usually means wet.

    Algeria’s climate is better compared to the southwest USA or northwest Mexico,which also gets a similar western flow and has a desert climate!
    https://www.quora.com/Although-the-...geria-30-degrees-it-is-not-desert-Why-is-this



    THINK
     
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    700 PEOPLE IN 1 WEEK. , MOST COULD'VE BEEN SAVED BY FOLLOWING FEDERAL SUGGESTIONS TO WINTERISE. Simple really
     
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    I live here I know better than you.
     
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    Insulation is just as important in the summer as it is during the winter time. You need insulation during the summer to prevent your home from overheating by trapping the cool air, especially in your attic. It is also important in saving on energy cost.

    https://www.andersoninsul.com/2018/05/14/why-do-i-still-need-insulation-in-summer/
     
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    You don't winterize it's the same latitude as the Sahara.

    It's like expecting Colorado to prepare for a tsunami
     
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    only if you're AC is running again I live here I know better than you.

    I've experienced power outages in the summer believe it or not air conditioners use electricity. When you don't have the electricity to run your AC your house is like an oven if it's insulated for the northern slope.

    Think.
     
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    Sure that's why you support Corp profits over peoples lives

    Gas sellers made $11 billion during Texas winter storm

    The Texas blackouts generated billions in revenue for gas companies

    Electricity sales during the blackouts surged to $50 billion, nearly ten times higher than the normal amount. Because those charges are so high, utilities will likely spread them across customers’ bills for decades to come; in turn, at least three major utilities have declared bankruptcy from sky-high wholesale power charges.
    https://qz.com/2006451/the-texas-blackouts-generated-billions-in-revenue-for-gas-companies/
     
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    You don't winterize in Texas like it's the northern slope where the same latitude is the Sahara.

    The corps transfer the cost on to the consumer. So it would be the spitting the money it would be me.

    Does Colorado prepare for tsunamis?
     
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    Texas Ratepayers Are Being Saddled With Nearly $38 Billion In Excess Energy Costs From Winter Storm
    https://twitter.com/pwrhungry/status/1403384374947729413

    While Texans froze and natural gas-fired power plants tripped offline during a February cold snap, natural gas traders and pipeline companies made up to $11 billion in just nine days.
     
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    We don't winterize in Texas it's the same latitude is the Sahara.
     
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    It doesn't really get cold in california though does it.
    Why don't you call me when your state is not on fire.
     

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