Biden's speech worked: Nearly 6 in 10 Americans agree MAGA is a threat to democracy

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  1. Hey Now

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    Can't you use any logic to dispute the veracity of what I posted or do you prefer a deflection straw man grasp?
    Again dispute this:
    MAGA Republicans was clearly defined, it the 2020 election deniers that are working still on behalf of The Big Lie and undermining the ability of the voters being represented. That's the internal fascist threat.
     
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    True, only 42% of Republicans responding is an awful sign for democrats, but also an awful sign for the country. Whenever citizens feel singled out, that is proof of the lack of health of the country.
     
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    There's no 'internal fascist threat'(I haven't been able to either find a party to join yet, or to get the funds for a party :D ) There is however, a trash can of a President. So I've fondly named him President Tin Can.
     
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    So you still can't dispute this? That was obvious but keep flailing away:
    MAGA Republicans was clearly defined, it the 2020 election deniers that are working still on behalf of The Big Lie and undermining the ability of the voters being represented. That's the internal fascist threat.
     
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    I dispute it as President Tin Can has spent his entire first term fighting ghosts, and his supporters have joined him in fighting ghosts. There's no credible 'fascist threat' and certainly not of the type that Tin Can Biden fears at night in his nightmares.
     
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    So , you just can't handle the logical answer and deadly accurate statement below, got it!
    MAGA Republicans was clearly defined, it the 2020 election deniers that are working still on behalf of The Big Lie and undermining the ability of the voters being represented. That's the internal fascist threat.
     
  7. Noone

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    President Biden hasn’t “sicced” the FBI on anyone.
     
  8. doombug

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    Biden is a puppet. It is the oligarchs that are running things.
     
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    There is nothing but far right wing propaganda to back that up.
     
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    LOL! Sure because most of the oligarchs are left wing scum.....

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  11. Noone

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    When you put a phony like tRaitor tRump before These Beloved United States, you've put yourself in a hopeless situation.
     
  12. doombug

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    See my previous post.
     
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    Nonsense, they rarely made any distinction and widespread arson and destruction from vandalism was referred to as mostly peaceful. Kamalah said they "would continue and should continue".
     
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    Why its
    "a violent uprising against an authority or government". The police are such an authority. And the usual transition of power occurred on Jan 20 just like it does every year. Elections are disputed almost every Presidential election. 61% of Americans believe Trump was legitimately elected. Only 57% believe Biden was legitimately elected.
     
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    Looked it up also, and I'll buy that definition, and by that definition the riots of 2020 would be called an insurrection. So would the Jan 6th events, right?
    But that doesn't mean they were the same, only similar in some characteristics. You want to equate them to support your argument that your defense of Jan 6th is ok.
    I have two arms, two legs and many other similar aspects to The Rock, but we are no where near the same person........... I'm much more attractive! That was a joke, btw.
    As I said there is a big difference, and they're both wrong. Major difference is that one was a bunch of hoodlums being idiots, some with intentions of getting politicians to make needed changes, most taking advantage of the situation, cause they're idiots. I don't count the peaceful protesters in that group.
    The other was a group of people who wanted to change the outcome of an election and discount the votes of 80 million Americans and subvert the election process of the United States. They literally said it themselves. No matter what, it my mind and many others, it is indefensible. I also don't count the peaceful protesters in that one either. One thing for sure, it didn't happen by accident.
    I'm also one of people who avoid the term "insurrection" as it is a word being used as a point of contention, and it usually doesn't matter what one calls it.
     
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    [QUOTE="independentthinker, post: 1073729693, member: 69673"]Name one person on the Jan 6th committee who would give Trump a fair shake. As far as the other stuff goes, it is all abuse of power by the Democrats to investigate Trump. They've done it nonstop since before Trump even took office. You'll understand this all a lot more when Republicans take back the House and can abuse their power in any way they see fit with a simple vote of 218-217. Impeachments are coming and not just on Biden.[/QUOTE]

    Name the arrogant idiot who pulled Republicans off the committee and came to greatly regret it after his daddy Trump later condemned him for doing so,
     
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    Name the arrogant idiot who pulled Republicans off the committee and came to greatly regret it after his daddy Trump later condemned him for doing so,[/QUOTE]
    The committee has always been a partisanly biased farce. Democrats had total control over everything so having a few token Trump people on the committee with zero power for anything would have just been playing into Democrat's hands as they would have been outvoted on anything and then Democrats could claim it was a fair committee. It wasn't from the start and never had a chance of being fair.
     
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    are you kidding, they were very clear in making the distinction
     
  19. Izzy

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    "I will keep the American public informed"
    Posted on Truth Social, Statements by Donald J. Trump


    “I’ll soon be heading to the scene of the unwarranted, unjust, and illegal Raid and Break-In of my home in Florida, Mar-a-Lago. I’ll be able to see for myself the results of the unnecessary ransacking of rooms and other areas of the house. It has already been proven that so much has been wrongfully taken, it is not a “pretty thing.” So sad! The 4th Amendment, and much more, has been totally violated, a grave invasion of privacy. I will keep the American public informed on TRUTH!”
    By Donald J. Trump

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    The committee has always been a partisanly biased farce. Democrats had total control over everything so having a few token Trump people on the committee with zero power for anything would have just been playing into Democrat's hands as they would have been outvoted on anything and then Democrats could claim it was a fair committee. It wasn't from the start and never had a chance of being fair.[/QUOTE]

    None of what you claim is true, even Trump now wished there were Republicans on the committee and McCarthy didn't take his ball and go home thinking he was outsmarting the J6'ers.

    Republicans could have questioned all witnesses called by the democrats and called their own witlessness to dispute whatever under OATH.

    You make it sound like all the witnesses who testified under oath were/are Democrats when they just so happened to all be from the Trump administration,

    Most are aka: Trump-Humpers.
     
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    None of what you claim is true, even Trump now wished there were Republicans on the committee and McCarthy didn't take his ball and go home thinking he was outsmarting the J6'ers.

    Republicans could have questioned all witnesses called by the democrats and called their own witlessness to dispute whatever under OATH.

    You make it sound like all the witnesses who testified under oath were/are Democrats when they just so happened to all be from the Trump administration,

    Most are aka: Trump-Humpers.[/QUOTE]
    Democrats had complete control over witnesses and what testimony would be in private and what would be released to the public and even what kind of questions would be asked. For example, Republicans wanted to talk about Nancy Pelosi's roll in policing the Capitol. None of that was allowed. Democrats had veto power over every little detail.
     
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    Democrats had complete control over witnesses and what testimony would be in private and what would be released to the public and even what kind of questions would be asked. For example, Republicans wanted to talk about Nancy Pelosi's roll in policing the Capitol. None of that was allowed. Democrats had veto power over every little detail.[/QUOTE]

    Dems had complete control because the idiot McCarthy said no Republicans on the committee after Pelosi rightfully rejected Jim Jordan and Jim Banks from the committee and told McCarthy to pick 2 other people.
    Both guys were in the coup mix and Jordan would most likely be called as a J6 witness which he acknowledged.
    What Republicans wanted to talk about Pelosi,the Republicans that McCarthy wouldn't let be on the committee? lol
     
  22. Thirty6BelowZero

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    extremist: a person who holds extreme or fanatical political or religious views, especially one who resorts to or advocates extreme action.


    This is the left all the way, but sure, point the finger at everyone else. There seems to be enough gullible dopes out there to believe it and ignore actual extremist actions. That IS how the democrat KKK got away with bullying, intimidation, and murder for so long.
     
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    Actually, we don't. Other posters have asked what Biden meant, and nobody can answer. Nobody knows what Biden is talking about, they just get in line to scream "YEAH!! MAGA EXTREMIST!!!"
     
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    Yeah, sure. It's "the left", and stuff. "The left" attacked the Capitol and made silly arguments about stolen elections. "The left" stole government documents and hid them at a golf club.
     
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    We sure do.
     

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